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    Posted: August 21 2005 at 23:39
I just have a few quick questions...Are Pelican and Isis considered prog?  I just heard them for the first time a few days ago and was blown away...very atmospheric stuff.  Anyways what are your thoughts on these bands and what are some other bands you can recomend that are similar to these two?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 22 2005 at 17:35
Love these bands. Isis' Panopticon is my top album from 2004, edging out the latest Magma disc, which is quite a feat. If you like them, you also should check out Red Sparowes, a supergroup of sorts with members from Isis, Neurosis, and the post-rock group The Halifax Pier. One album, At the Soundless Dawn, which is pretty solid.

Neurosis is the other obvious recommendation but I never got into them as much. You may also like the harder-edged post-rock stuff - say, Mogwai's Young Team or their My Father, My King EP, or Mono's One Step More and You Die (Pelican is releasing a split EP with Mono later this year, actually).

Really anyone who likes the heavier side of post-rock should dig Pelican. Isis is a bit of a further stretch because of their use of death metal style vocals, but those tend to be buried in the mix and might not bother some folks who usually can't stand that style.

I have reviews of all of Pelican's albums and Isis' most recent three albums at Ground and Sky.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 22 2005 at 22:57

Thanks for the recommendations.  I heard that Red Sparowes and Pelican are on tour this year together so if youre a fan you should definately check that out.

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 23 2005 at 02:00
I have "The Fire in our Throats Will Beckon the Thaw" by Pelican, and "Panopticon" by Isis.  I can say I really enjoy both of these releases.  Neurosis, however, is harder for me to get into.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 23 2005 at 11:43
Early Neurosis is tough to get into, but their latest releases are absolutely beautiful.  Check out The Eye of Every Storm.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 29 2005 at 00:13
these are all incredible bands.  i love that their sound is simultaneously atmosperic and spacey, yet powerful.  are they prog?  it's hard to tell.  they have all the spirit of prog, but thrive on repetition.  they are certainly post-rock at the very least.  They are also becoming popular and bringing prog(ish) music back into quasi-popularity, at least in the college rock world, which has been notoriously anti-progressive for many years (in fact, in the early 90's, station managers went through the stacks and threw out all the pink floyd albums because they were "too pretentious".... thankfully they forgot yes and genesis).
so, what is my point in all of this?  are they prog rock?  not entirely.  are they important to the re-acceptance of progressive music?  definitely.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 29 2005 at 16:22
Originally posted by GoldenSpiral GoldenSpiral wrote:

so, what is my point in all of this?  are they prog
rock? 
not entirely.  are they important to the re-acceptance of
progressive music?  definitely.


I agree wholeheartedly. Not many metal bands can bring a tear to the
eyes of their fans without serious bodily danger.

I would recommend Kayo Dot - not the same type of prog-doom/sludge
as Neurosis/Isis/Pelican, but aesthetically similar, a lot of crawling,
building jams that are really crushing to experience.

and I definetly consider them progressive, but not "prog" persay, and I
believe we all know what the difference is, ridiculous though it may be.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 29 2005 at 19:45
Originally posted by morpheusdraven morpheusdraven wrote:

and I definetly consider them progressive, but not "prog" persay, and I believe we all know what the difference is, ridiculous though it may be.


Not ridiculous at all. A very useful distinction.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 06 2005 at 23:09
Of the bands mentioned, I would certainly deem Isis as the only one qualified to fit the post-metal genre, Red Sparowes' album should be categorized within post-rock, due to the less-aggressive soundscapes, a superb album albeit. Pelican is evolving into more of a post-rock sound, indicative in TFIOTWBTT, although their self-titled EP and Australasia would be more apt to be paired with a metal genre, both of which are less engaging listens due to their repetitive-riff nature. It would be interesting to see the route Pelican takes on their imminent work, considering they are signed by the metal-oriented hydrahead records, they may have the incentive to retain the metal aggression, yet if they do opt for a softer approach it would be interesting to see whether Hyrdahead keeps them signed. TFIOTWBTT is an aesthetically-piercing release, however I felt the production quality of the album was quite lackluster, the volume seems to be diminished more so than other recent releases, and the cymbals have a tendency to be harsh at times.I saw an advertisement while dining in Seattle, that Pelican was going to be opening for Opeth at the showbox in Seattle on October the 20th,and the showbox is a tiny venue which holds energy well, I am still trying to arrange my schedule to position that in there.

 Isis is a band which has complimented my lateralus' listens well, a very similar art-metal affect. I would deem Oceanic as just slightly more captivating, it tends to be a bit more aggressive, and I think the shouting vocals present within the album outshine the singing attempts in Panopticon, even though I do enjoy the vocals on Panopticon, especially the intense grinnng mouths. Plus Oceanic seems to be a bit more experimental which produces a stylish edge, e.g., the sea-thought-inducing- instrumental- song maritime and the integration of the vague female vocals on weight. I must also give Isis props for producing two of the most artistically- gripping album covers.

I haven't really been able to engage myself with neurosis, for some reason, in their case, I find the vocals detracting.

Progreviews suggested Mono, evidence that his head is finely attached. Very alluring guitar post-rock with the occasional buildup, although this intrinsically soft band haling from japan is more comfortably fit alongside the likes of explosions in the sky, they express defiance in that categorizing on the heavier parts 16.12 and com(?). As mentioned, a lot of similarities to mogwai's quicker-paced stuff. I listened to the mono/pelican on vinyl, an enjoyable live recording featuring both bands' more progressive stuff. Mono apparently played at a small tavern in Seattle recently, damn, I missed it.

In essence these bands certainly deserve their respective places on this site. They feature more than mere repetition, look no further than the transitions on Pelican's "march into the Sea" or the fantastic encores on Isis's "Hym" and "Grinning Mouths" to justify that statement. Hopefully someday we'll be able to accredit them for shaping the contempary definition of metal and rock. So, Admins, get your butts in gear and get them on the progarchives' squad.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 07 2005 at 00:36
I love all these bands more and more everyday.

whats better than both post-rock and metal?

post-metal!!!
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