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Posted: February 19 2016 at 13:19
BaldFriede wrote:
My favourite Genesis album. They are at their most experimental here, especially on side 3 and 4 of the original vinyl. I see the album as a whole, not as a collection of songs, so I don't complain about the length of the shorter tracks. Actually many of the shorter tracks float into each other.
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Posted: February 19 2016 at 10:24
BaldFriede wrote:
My favourite Genesis album. They are at their most experimental here, especially on side 3 and 4 of the original vinyl. I see the album as a whole, not as a collection of songs, so I don't complain about the length of the shorter tracks. Actually many of the shorter tracks float into each other.
Thank you .... likewise here.
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Posted: February 17 2016 at 06:11
My favourite Genesis album. They are at their most experimental here, especially on side 3 and 4 of the original vinyl. I see the album as a whole, not as a collection of songs, so I don't complain about the length of the shorter tracks. Actually many of the shorter tracks float into each other.
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Posted: February 13 2016 at 23:30
The Lamb may not be my favorite
of Genesis but I’ve always had a soft spot for it.While it didn’t introduce me to prog (that
honor would go to the Moodies, Procol H. and early ELPs, largely via my
brothers’ collections) it was my introduction to the band.I was lucky to live in an area with at least
three good FM stations, and top 40 radio had, with few exceptions, become so gagworthy
that I was more than ready for a change.It was the beginning of my Age of Discovery, and I don’t care how corny
it sounds: it was literally a whole different world I’d found my way to, most
notably (to my ears) for the great prog releases of that year: Hero and
Heroine, Mysterious Traveller, The Power and the Glory, Hamburger Concerto,
Eldorado, Relayer, Hall of the Mountain Grill, Kansas (1st), Down to Earth,
Turn of the Cards, Mirage, WarChild, Free Spirit, Red, Country Life, The World
Became the World, Todd Rundgren’s Utopia, Illusions on a Double Dimple, Crime
of the Century, Sheet Music…
And of course the Lamb.The first time I heard the title track it all
clicked.I’d literally heard nothing
like it: the shimmering keyboards, the vocal mannerisms, the propulsive drum
fills.I quickly discovered Nursery
Cryme, Foxtrot and Selling England afterward, but the Lamb will always occupy a
special place for me, as the album that served as my gateway to the greater
world of prog.
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Posted: February 12 2016 at 21:32
The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway was my first exposure to Genesis. Our local FM rock radio station in Dallas played the entire album uninterrupted one night shortly after its release in November 1974. I was intrigued by the music at the time. After a relatively small amount of airplay over the next couple of months, it disappeared from the radio. I heard nothing more about this new (to me) group until August 1975 when it was announced that Peter Gabriel had left the group. I remember the DJ saying "Well, looks like that's the end of Genesis". I was more than a bit pissed to hear it since I had just learned of them and then they were gone. Fortunately for me, they still had a few really good albums left in them before they morphed into 80s pop stars. The Lamb got me interested in Genesis; A Trick of the Tail made me a fan.
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Posted: February 09 2016 at 21:16
tittlelob is giving me an itchycock. It's a great album. If you keep picking at it, it won't heal...
Go ahead and type in or cut and paste in the whole album name fer crying out loud otherwise your postings tend to get tiresome towards the end. heheheheh
Edited by Slartibartfast - February 09 2016 at 21:21
Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Posted: February 09 2016 at 20:12
PrognosticMind wrote:
Great replies as always, guys!
I might sound crazy, but I think Phil did a great job with lead vocals on Lamb tracks live in 1976/1977 and onward.
I agree, and in fact it occurs to me that of the two or three TLLDOB tracks that I like, two of them (the title track and Slippermen) are on Seconds Out.
I wonder if or how often people tend to prefer what they first heard of a band? Certainly, if it grabbed your attention then I would expect that it is going to hold a special place in your feelings for that band.
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Posted: February 09 2016 at 17:33
I like the Tin Spirits version! They are a (relatively) local band (Swindon) and have seen them do it live (along with a few wisely chosen covers such as 'Red' in amongst their own material..)
Regarding the Lamb; my own view of it is very much coloured by my own personal circumstances when I first heard it and therefore still has a very strong emotional effect on me. Musically I feel it has more quirks and twists (most work in my view but a few don't)than SEBTP mostly built out of the 'jamming' way that much of it was constructed (much by Rutherford/Banks/ Collins whilst PG was absent or writing lyrics) but its the deep sense of expressing a wide range of emotions in a very eccentric, english and intense way which can still reduce me to tears.. even seeing the Musical box version twice I was surprised to find myself still very moved and transported. I do feel that the emotional energy of the lyrics and 'pilgrims progress' theme was mostly born out of the emotional rawness and exhaustion of PG's Personal situation and relationship with the rest of the band. Although this is a 'flawed' diamond in many respects, its actually remarkable that the whole band managed to create as coherent an album as they did..
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Posted: February 09 2016 at 15:22
My point of entry with prog Genesis was Trick of the Tail. I loved it right away, and that led me to getting every studio album they had ever done.
A few years back, I did some "spring cleaning" of my music library, and when Genesis came up, not all of them survived. Everything after Wind and Wuthering didn't make the cut (except for the song "Keep it Dark", which I inexplicably love). Same with "From Genesis to Revelation" - gone. Of all the albums that remained, Lamb is the least best of the lot.
Not unlike Tales from Topographic Oceans, or Brain Salad Surgery, I find it pretentious, and the story takes away from the music. I've kept Lamb because I'm waiting for it to hit me one day. Like one day, I'll put it on, and find it as amazing as so many others on this site who sing its praises. It's been nearly a decade, and it hasn't happened yet. It does have its moments, though they are few and far between for me.
If I'm picking a favorite Genesis album, though, it's Trespass. "Looking for Someone" is my all time favorite Genesis song, and I love how raw the album is. It's got a ton of character.
BTW have any of you heard this cover of "Back in NYC" by Tin Spirits? It's pretty great.
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Posted: February 09 2016 at 06:17
Rednight wrote:
PrognosticMind wrote:
I too recall reading about Gabriel sort disappearing during TLLDOB sessions to meet with the French film producer, which eventually lead to his departure in (I believe) August '75.
"As I cuddle the porcupine, he said I had none to blame but me..."
The only thing French about the guy was in the title of his most famous film - The French Connection. It was William Friedkin, an American director.
I was unaware of this. Thank you for sharing.
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Posted: February 08 2016 at 16:36
grantman wrote:
foxtrot is more complete album I think the only instrumental track is horizons ever body seems to be on a more united front, to make a proper album or at least what I feel is proper like dark side of the moon compared to the wall my thoughts only
What do you mean by "complete"?
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Posted: February 08 2016 at 16:11
foxtrot is more complete album I think the only instrumental track is horizons ever body seems to be on a more united front, to make a proper album or at least what I feel is proper like dark side of the moon compared to the wall my thoughts only
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Posted: February 08 2016 at 16:03
PrognosticMind wrote:
I too recall reading about Gabriel sort disappearing during TLLDOB sessions to meet with the French film producer, which eventually lead to his departure in (I believe) August '75.
"As I cuddle the porcupine, he said I had none to blame but me..."
The only thing French about the guy was in the title of his most famous film - The French Connection. It was William Friedkin, an American director.
Edited by Rednight - February 08 2016 at 16:04
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Posted: February 07 2016 at 21:47
PrognosticMind wrote:
Great replies as always, guys!
I might sound crazy, but I think Phil did a great job with lead vocals on Lamb tracks live in 1976/1977 and onward.
I actually like Phil as a singer better than Gabriel. And mostly I like it better how he sings Gabriel songs... however, for other reasons I often end up liking the original versions better (or live versions still with Gabriel - which I also usually like Gabriel singing live better than on studio).
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Posted: February 07 2016 at 07:51
FWIW I do think some of Lamb is dispensable but I could hardly care less. One of the most evocative, atmospheric and creepy albums Genesis have done. Right from the opening notes of the title track...just completely unlike anything they had done before or ever since. The Eno effect?
The Lamb is my favourite Genesis album. I see and hear it as fullbodied piece of work that would lose something magical if it was to lose just one second of it's playing time. The pause in the Waiting Room is just as important to the overall scope of this album as In the Cage's thundering climax. You need darkness in order to appreciate light and vice versa.
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BaldFriede wrote:
Fortunately for me, they still had a few really good albums left in them before they morphed into 80s pop stars. The Lamb got me interested in Genesis; A Trick of the Tail made me a fan. 
