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Magnum Vaeltaja 
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He's up there but if I had to pick a favourite it would probably be David Byron, Serge Fiori or Ronnie Van Zant.
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when i was a kid a doller was worth ten dollers - now a doller couldnt even buy you fifty cents
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BaldFriede
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Posted: March 06 2016 at 09:22 |
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Dramatization is an important part of singing. It's not just all about the voice. You can have an angelic voice and sound horrible if you don't carry over the emotion. |
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Lewian
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Posted: March 06 2016 at 09:39 |
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My favourite singers are female, Bjork, Kate Bush, Annie Haslam. Among male singers, Gabriel would be in my top 10, I guess.
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Posted: March 06 2016 at 10:24 |
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AGREE
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Posted: March 06 2016 at 10:36 |
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Collins is a better singer IMO. |
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Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
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dr wu23
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Posted: March 06 2016 at 15:36 |
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Eminently reasonable position.....
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Posted: March 06 2016 at 16:08 |
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I'd say yes. He may be not my favourite singer, but he is the archetype of some of my favourite singers.
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Posted: March 06 2016 at 17:38 |
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Yep top 5 for sure.
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Posted: March 06 2016 at 22:28 |
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Actually, I don't like his singing, and for me his dramatization just does it worse. |
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Posted: March 06 2016 at 22:28 |
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Posted: March 06 2016 at 23:04 |
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It's not ALL about the voice but the voice is still an important part of it and when I say voice, I refer not just to a tone (and definitely not to an angelic tone) but the power and possibilities of a given voice. And it's not all about dramatization either. You don't need dramatization to sing Still Got The Blues and I guarantee any number of rock singers would sing that song better than Gabriel. Why? Because if you strip away the crutches of epic structure and strong lyrical content especially in a narrative form (like Musical Box), he doesn't have much else to stand on. When I talked about dramatization, I meant that Gabriel relies very heavily on working in the context of prog epic drama. Forget Still Got The Blues, he wouldn't be able to sing Squonk as well as Collins because he lacks even that extent of throw in his voice.
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Posted: March 07 2016 at 00:23 |
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Imagine if Phil Collins - if he is the better singer - had been doing the vocals for Genesis from the beginning (or nearly). How different things would have turned out - or would they?
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BaldFriede
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Posted: March 07 2016 at 01:30 |
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We seem to have a different understanding of "dramatize". For you it apparently means "to express oneself in a dramatic or exaggerated way". For me it means "to express or represent vividly, emotionally or strikingly" (both definitions taken from http://dictionary.reference.com/). Try singing "Still got the Blues" without the latter; it will sound ridiculous. |
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Posted: March 07 2016 at 01:32 |
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What if Peter Gabriel were my favorite gardener ?
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Posted: March 07 2016 at 04:29 |
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The question is what role, if any, would Gabriel have in such a set up? A big part of what made Gabriel sound great was his own lyrics. Even he didn't seem to enjoy singing Banks' lyrics (see Firth of Fifth, he practically swallows the word scalpel because that line sounds so awkward). So if Gabriel had had a Pete Sinfield like role, Collins would have been alright. But with Banks lyrics, Collins would have been uncomfortable singing more epic/dramatized material (see All in A Mouse's Night) and pushed the band to a more mainstream sound much earlier than it actually happened.
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Posted: March 07 2016 at 04:52 |
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I did mean it in the former sense in the case of Gabriel.
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Posted: March 07 2016 at 04:59 |
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To speak frankly, all my favorite male singers are black
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Posted: March 07 2016 at 05:06 |
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There actually is no "scalpel" in the lyrics of "Firth of Fifth". The line you probably mean is "like a cancer growth is removed by skill". |
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rogerthat
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Posted: March 07 2016 at 06:09 |
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Yup, you're right. The line remains quite awkward to sing.
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Posted: March 07 2016 at 09:27 |
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Gabriel and Bowie for me.
(So I voted YES!!!)
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