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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 20 2016 at 16:45
Don't ever try to begin a conversation with the Swedes on trains and busses. People will suspect that you're drunk. LOL 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 21 2016 at 03:05
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One of the strangest that had me planning the quickest route to the exit was "You don't have guns in Eng-er-land do you?"

Eng-er-land?   Where were you, Dean, Arkansas?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 21 2016 at 03:28
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

I was once told that "on the Continent" it was considered to be ill-mannered to talk about the weather because it implied that you had nothing else to talk about.

That isn't the case here in the UK where we seem to talk about very little else. Some would observe that is because we have so much of it but the reality is not quite like that. The truth is, it's something we all have in common - walk up to a total stranger in the street and try and strike up a conversation, regardless of what opening gambit you use there is a fair chance that they will completely ignore you. However, the one thing you can guarantee is that you are both currently experiencing exactly the same weather and you can safely predict with high certainty that you will both agree that it will change shortly. If it is currently sunny you will agree that it will most likely rain later and if it is currently raining you will both be sure that it will brighten up soon. Before you know it they'll be telling you their life story as if you'd known them for years, and you never know, they may even ask something about you.

So there you have it - with a simple comment about the weather you've struck up a conversation with a normally reserved Brit.  

Ta-dah!

In the small part of the Continent that is called the Netherlands no one has a problem with conversations about the weather. On the contrary, there are few subjects of conversation that fit the Dutch as well as the weather. It is subject to many changes and, just like politics, too often something not to be content about.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 21 2016 at 04:47
Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

One of the strangest that had me planning the quickest route to the exit was "You don't have guns in Eng-er-land do you?"

Eng-er-land?   Where were you, Dean, Arkansas?

Milpitas, but not everyone there was a local Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 21 2016 at 05:13
Originally posted by silverpot silverpot wrote:

Don't ever try to begin a conversation with the Swedes on trains and busses. People will suspect that you're drunk. LOL 

The same goes for Denmark. We fear other humans when packed together in small places - especially if the pćace is moving.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 21 2016 at 05:22
Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

Originally posted by silverpot silverpot wrote:

Don't ever try to begin a conversation with the Swedes on trains and busses. People will suspect that you're drunk. LOL 

The same goes for Denmark. We fear other humans when packed together in small places - especially if the pćace is moving.
Last time I visited Sweden a combination of the high price of alcohol and a more-or-less zero tolerance on drink-driving meant the one place you could guarantee meeting a drunk Swede was on public transport.Wink


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Originally posted by silverpot silverpot wrote:

Don't ever try to begin a conversation with the Swedes on trains and busses. People will suspect that you're drunk. LOL 

I think there are unwritten rules, even for Americans. And like anything else there are generational differences.  I grew up in the rural and suburban Western states in the 60s and 70s where it was considered pretty rude to not acknowledge a visitor to the area if you ran into them at a supermarket or community event or even walking down the street.  It's still that way in many of those places today.  Same goes for waving at people in passing cars.  I really never understood that one, but I recall as a child that my parents would cuff my in the head if someone drove by and I didn't wave to them.

We don't really have passenger trains in most of the West, but striking up a conversation with a total stranger on a bus kind of crosses a line.  There's a good chance the person doing that is a bit wanting in the mental stability department.  And I'm really not a fan of people who feel the need to chat when queued up at checkout lines or waiting to get into a concert or the security line at the airport.  A lot of people do that here but I'm usually already annoyed to be standing in line and don't feel like expending the energy to try and be polite to someone I'll probably never see again.

Another thing I've found different around the world is people's manners while driving a car.  Everywhere I've been in Europe (except Germany), people tend to be completely self-absorbed and drive like they don't give a crap about anyone else around them.  Same goes for China, Korea and Singapore.  And the honking is incessant, especially in China.  I've been driving for almost 40 years in the U.S. and have probably only honked my car horn 2-3 times.  I've had my current car for six years and don't even know what the horn sounds like (actually I don't even know if it works Ermm).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 21 2016 at 06:50
Originally posted by ClemofNazareth ClemofNazareth wrote:

Originally posted by silverpot silverpot wrote:

Don't ever try to begin a conversation with the Swedes on trains and busses. People will suspect that you're drunk. LOL 

I think there are unwritten rules, even for Americans. And like anything else there are generational differences.  I grew up in the rural and suburban Western states in the 60s and 70s where it was considered pretty rude to not acknowledge a visitor to the area if you ran into them at a supermarket or community event or even walking down the street.  It's still that way in many of those places today.  Same goes for waving at people in passing cars.  I really never understood that one, but I recall as a child that my parents would cuff my in the head if someone drove by and I didn't wave to them.

We don't really have passenger trains in most of the West, but striking up a conversation with a total stranger on a bus kind of crosses a line.  There's a good chance the person doing that is a bit wanting in the mental stability department.  And I'm really not a fan of people who feel the need to chat when queued up at checkout lines or waiting to get into a concert or the security line at the airport.  A lot of people do that here but I'm usually already annoyed to be standing in line and don't feel like expending the energy to try and be polite to someone I'll probably never see again.

Another thing I've found different around the world is people's manners while driving a car.  Everywhere I've been in Europe (except Germany), people tend to be completely self-absorbed and drive like they don't give a crap about anyone else around them.  Same goes for China, Korea and Singapore.  And the honking is incessant, especially in China.  I've been driving for almost 40 years in the U.S. and have probably only honked my car horn 2-3 times.  I've had my current car for six years and don't even know what the horn sounds like (actually I don't even know if it works Ermm).
On the subject of waving at cars, in the UK when driving some of the less popular models sometimes a driver of the same model as you will acknowledge you by waving or flashing their headlights. This happened occasionally when I owned VW Sirocco Mk2's, and that became more frequent after they went out of production so where rarer on the road. However, it only seemed to happen in my Hyundai V6 coupe if the other car was exactly the same model and colour as mine, but when I bought an MG TF roadster I don't recall ever seeing another MG roadster owner not wave regardless of the model they were driving, even drivers of vintage ones would acknowledge me as a member of the "on the road club". 

Now I drive a BMW convertible the only waving I see is with one finger extended regardless of the make or model of the other car, and that includes other BMW dirvers. LOL


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 21 2016 at 08:00
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

Originally posted by silverpot silverpot wrote:

Don't ever try to begin a conversation with the Swedes on trains and busses. People will suspect that you're drunk. LOL 

The same goes for Denmark. We fear other humans when packed together in small places - especially if the pćace is moving.

Last time I visited Sweden a combination of the high price of <span style="line-height: 18.2px;">alcohol</span><span style="line-height: 18.2px;"> </span><span style="line-height: 1.4;">and a more-or-less zero tolerance on drink-driving meant the one place you could guarantee meeting a drunk Swede was on public transport.</span>Wink




We tend to meet inebriated Swedes all through the summer much due to the same reason. They absolutely adore our alcoholic ways.

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We tend to meet inebriated Swedes all through the summer much due to the same reason. They absolutely adore our alcoholic ways.

Before my visit I asked if I should bring anything with me (meaning to do my job, such as specialist tools, back-up discs, instruction manuals etc.) - the reply I received was: "1 litre bottle of Johnny Walker Black Label". Big smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 21 2016 at 08:06
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And the honking is incessant, especially in China.  I've been driving for almost 40 years in the U.S. and have probably only honked my car horn 2-3 times.  
 
I spent a couple of weeks in Bangalore a few years ago, the honking is incessant there as well. There is no real concept of lanes or letting people out, everyone just piles in and hits the horn like crazy. The noise gets on your nerves pretty quickly but strangely we only saw one minor accident the whole time we were there.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 21 2016 at 08:19
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:




We tend to meet inebriated Swedes all through the summer much due to the same reason. They absolutely adore our alcoholic ways.


Before my visit I asked if I should bring anything with me (meaning to do my job, such as specialist tools, back-up discs, instruction manuals etc.) - the reply I received was: "1 litre bottle of Johnny Walker Black Label". Big smile


Sounds about right.
I'm not sure the alcohol laws of Sweden work the way they're supposed to. Keeping people, who basically stem from the Vikings, away from the drink makes the occasional party even crazier. Man I've seen some absurd cases at the Roskilde Festival - folks who clearly have been waiting months to go absolutely berserk. They may just have saved what tiny bit of pride left - if they'd had the same opportunity in their home country. Oh well I really can't complain. Some of these instances were absolutely hilarious and something I'll never forget. 50% of any festival is watching other people anyway.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 21 2016 at 08:20
Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Originally posted by ClemofNazareth ClemofNazareth wrote:

And the honking is incessant, especially in China.  I've been driving for almost 40 years in the U.S. and have probably only honked my car horn 2-3 times.  

 
I spent a couple of weeks in Bangalore a few years ago, the honking is incessant there as well. There is no real concept of lanes or letting people out, everyone just piles in and hits the horn like crazy. The noise gets on your nerves pretty quickly but strangely we only saw one minor accident the whole time we were there.


In Italy it's a separate language.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 21 2016 at 08:28
Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Originally posted by ClemofNazareth ClemofNazareth wrote:

And the honking is incessant, especially in China.  I've been driving for almost 40 years in the U.S. and have probably only honked my car horn 2-3 times.  
 
I spent a couple of weeks in Bangalore a few years ago, the honking is incessant there as well. There is no real concept of lanes or letting people out, everyone just piles in and hits the horn like crazy. The noise gets on your nerves pretty quickly but strangely we only saw one minor accident the whole time we were there.
This is so true, India is like on a different planet.
I spent 6 months there about 15 years ago, and drove my own bike, now that I'm thinking about it it's a damn miracle I came back home in one piece.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 21 2016 at 08:32
Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Originally posted by ClemofNazareth ClemofNazareth wrote:

And the honking is incessant, especially in China.  I've been driving for almost 40 years in the U.S. and have probably only honked my car horn 2-3 times.  

 
I spent a couple of weeks in Bangalore a few years ago, the honking is incessant there as well. There is no real concept of lanes or letting people out, everyone just piles in and hits the horn like crazy. The noise gets on your nerves pretty quickly but strangely we only saw one minor accident the whole time we were there.


In Italy it's a separate language.

LOL Italy is without doubt the maddest place I've ever driven, whether in a large city or driving around narrow mountain roads at break-neck speed the technique for changing lanes or overtaking seemed to be "horn, manoeuvre, mirror, obscene-gesture and then horn again". In the end I just eased off the gas and let them get on with it. Until it started to rain, then they turned into the most cautious drivers you could imagine - leaving the roads clear for us Brits (and the Dutch for some reason) to show them how it should be done.
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I still don't have a driver's license (at 34!!! I know I know but I am quite comfortable on my bike), but if I had, I would absolutely dread a drive in downtown Rome. Even pedestrians need to watch out - especially when crossing the street. The traffic signals are only there as a guide, but no one seems to take them seriously. I quickly found out the best way to go about crossing traffic was to follow women (preferably hot). The cars would break instantly and often the drivers would say nice things out the window that I, of course, pretended was directed at me.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 21 2016 at 09:01
I didn't learn to drive until I was 32 - the magic words were "I'm pregnant"

But yep - the driving in Rome was something else, I briefly experienced it as we approached the city before returning the car to the Avis. That was always part of the plan anyway as we didn't need the car for three days in Rome... and on seeing a guy eat a bowl of pasta while driving and then a woman putting on her make-up at 80kph on the autostrade, we realised this was a good plan. The taxi ride into the city was something you'd pay good money for at an amusement park.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 21 2016 at 09:02
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Originally posted by ClemofNazareth ClemofNazareth wrote:

And the honking is incessant, especially in China.  I've been driving for almost 40 years in the U.S. and have probably only honked my car horn 2-3 times.  

 
I spent a couple of weeks in Bangalore a few years ago, the honking is incessant there as well. There is no real concept of lanes or letting people out, everyone just piles in and hits the horn like crazy. The noise gets on your nerves pretty quickly but strangely we only saw one minor accident the whole time we were there.


In Italy it's a separate language.

LOL Italy is without doubt the maddest place I've ever driven, whether in a large city or driving around narrow mountain roads at break-neck speed the technique for changing lanes or overtaking seemed to be "horn, manoeuvre, mirror, obscene-gesture and then horn again". In the end I just eased off the gas and let them get on with it. Until it started to rain, then they turned into the most cautious drivers you could imagine - leaving the roads clear for us Brits (and the Dutch for some reason) to show them how it should be done.

what was the joke again? ah, yes.

a tourist gets into a taxi cab at the central station in Rome and wants to be driven to his hotel. the taxi driver starts off like mad, turning corners at full speed with screeching tires. what it especially notable is that he crosses each red traffic light. suddenly they reach a green traffic light, and he stops. asks the tourist: "why do you stop here"? replies the taxi driver: "ah signore, now my colleagues will come"


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 21 2016 at 09:14
You people have not driven in South America OuchTongue
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Another US-specific (I think, please correct me if wrong) thing I don't really love as compared to where I come from: the tendency to immediately talk to somebody else using names. No "Mr X" or anything like that, no middle of the road between you and nothing (no formal second person like in Spanish where we have "usted"), Americans immediately jump to talk in first names and, again, and it may be my social awkwardness here, I feel people are trying to sell me something.  

Am I wrong? Does it happen everywhere? 
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