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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 29 2005 at 22:03
Originally posted by pogoowner pogoowner wrote:

Mark Zonder


mark zonder is fantastic, very unique and  orignial, at the front of the row with mike portnoy (and of course rick colaluca!!!!).

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 29 2005 at 21:59

When was the last time Peart used the "4 miles long" roll?  It's been decades, hasn't it?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 29 2005 at 21:31
Originally posted by floydaholic floydaholic wrote:

Originally posted by DarHobo DarHobo wrote:

I think Peart is overrated, I am a drummer myself and the solo to YYZ isn't that amazing, its average.  I mean, seriously most of his ability comes with the fact that he has a huge set.  All he has to do is do a standard roll 4 miles long from one side of his set on the 2" tom and end it on the other side on his  60" inch floor tom, and there ya' go the classic peart sound.

I disagree. He is pretty damn skilled to play such a large set well. Though he doesn't use cymbals as much as the more skilled jazz drummers do he has more drum pieces than they do and makes good use of them. He is an incredible rock drummer.

 

Yes he is a great drummer, but with the set thing, I know this guy who truely sucks at drums but now he has about a 10 piece and because of the huge set can sound decent.  Becasue more is there, there is more to roll on.  He can now just hit each tom in a 2 stroke succession from high to low and make a decent sounding roll because there is so much, but if he was on a standard 5-piece, thats another story.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 29 2005 at 21:00
Originally posted by DarHobo DarHobo wrote:

I think Peart is overrated, I am a drummer myself and the solo to YYZ isn't that amazing, its average.  I mean, seriously most of his ability comes with the fact that he has a huge set.  All he has to do is do a standard roll 4 miles long from one side of his set on the 2" tom and end it on the other side on his  60" inch floor tom, and there ya' go the classic peart sound.

I disagree. He is pretty damn skilled to play such a large set well. Though he doesn't use cymbals as much as the more skilled jazz drummers do he has more drum pieces than they do and makes good use of them. He is an incredible rock drummer.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 29 2005 at 20:59
Originally posted by Damen Damen wrote:

Originally posted by ulver982 ulver982 wrote:

but even better then all, the drummer in the White Stripes.  She's crazy on the drums...watch out neil!

I hope that's sarcasm

That band is NOT about the drums....it fits the song, and if she's so bad, what should she do to make it sound "better"?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 29 2005 at 20:49

I think Peart is kinda overrated, I am a drummer myself and the solo to YYZ isn't that amazing, it's good, but Peart is blown up into God-like proportion becasue of it.  I mean, seriously most of his ability comes with the fact that he has a huge set.  All he has to do is do a standard roll 4 miles long from one side of his set on the 2" tom and end it on the other side on his  60" inch floor tom, and there ya' go the classic peart sound.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 29 2005 at 20:26

My favorites have to be Peart, Bruford, Moerlen, Gadd, and Coliauta.  (Although I love DeJohnette's cymbal work and Copeland's syncopation)

Can't say anything bad about Cobham, but I don't think he's as great as some people apparently do, but then I kind of like the more angular drummers, and Cobham strikes me as too straight-forward (albeit powerful).

As far as the "next" Neil Peart, I think it's a misguided question.  What makes the Pearts, Brufords, or Bonhams of the world great is their unique style and personality.  The next great drummer will have his (or her) own unique style.

 



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 29 2005 at 15:10

Originally posted by DallasBryan DallasBryan wrote:

Neil adds up to a pimple on the PROGRESSIVE
BUTT of Billy Cobham, Phil Collins, Furio Cherico,
Jaki Liebezeit, Carl Palmer, Airto Moreira and
Michael Shrieve - SOME GREAT PROGRESSIVE
PERCUSSIONISTS!

I wouldn't really call Michael Shrieve progressive, although he's an incredible drummer.

I'll have to see if I can download some Peart videos. Maybe then I'll see what this is all about...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 29 2005 at 14:18
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 29 2005 at 13:55
Originally posted by Shack Man Shack Man wrote:

being overrated is not an opinion, neil peart lived up to his glory, and you can't just say he is overrated because you prefer other drummers.

how is it not an opinion "i think neil peart is overrated"
it isnt a fact is it? or can you somehow answer that question for me...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 29 2005 at 13:46
being overrated is not an opinion, neil peart lived up to his glory, and you can't just say he is overrated because you prefer other drummers.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 29 2005 at 13:35
Originally posted by King of Loss King of Loss wrote:

Originally posted by hukt on fonikzz hukt on fonikzz wrote:

Originally posted by spectral spectral wrote:

You can never call Peart overrated.  Just check out YYZ or O Baterista to realise why he is a legend.



mm yes you can...he is amazing of course i agree to that, but you cant reely compare him to some other drummers in terms of who is better than who. for me peart is one of the best in his style...for ex. chris pennie of DEP play much more ferociously but at the same time just as technical, peart could probably never do some of the stuff he does, and vise versa for someone like john theodore

But Chris Pennie of DEP has no melody, I saw DEP and the band as a whole totally, totally SUCKED!



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 29 2005 at 06:05
Originally posted by limeyrob limeyrob wrote:

Rush overated - ergo Peart overated.

What's all this about YYZ? Is he only famous for one track on an overated album?

what?!?! have you ever listened to his work with a CRITIC EAR? Peart is a GREAT drummer, he ALWAYS astonishes me, in every single song I hear. He's so passionate and so precise at the same time, he has one of the best drum sounds I've ever heard, so clean and so powerful, technical but with warmth. He may not be the BEST drummer in the world but he IS among the greatest.

Rush overrated? don't see how...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 29 2005 at 03:27

Rush overated - ergo Peart overated.

What's all this about YYZ? Is he only famous for one track on an overated album?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 29 2005 at 00:36
Originally posted by Biggles Biggles wrote:

You know, I've been listening to Peart, but I honestly can't see what all the hype is about. Maybe it's because I'm not a drummer so I can't really make an accurate judgement of how good someone is, but I think Peart pales in comparison to someone like, say, Billy Cobham. In fact, I never thought Rush as a whole had an overwhelming amount of technique, although admittedly the Geddy Lee does pull some cool stuff on "YYZ."


I am not a drummer either- you have to watch him to see what all the hype is about. Amazing
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 29 2005 at 00:34
Originally posted by ulver982 ulver982 wrote:

but even better then all, the drummer in the White Stripes.  She's crazy on the drums...watch out neil!

I hope that's sarcasm

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 29 2005 at 00:29

Originally posted by R.Darkmoon R.Darkmoon wrote:

Originally posted by +dreamtheater+ +dreamtheater+ wrote:

who is mark zonder


A drummer!

Anyway, Spiral Architect's drummer is really good. I would say the battle for the next Peart is between Portnoy and Spiral Architect's

 

I concur.

 

Spiral Architect are gods. People on here should talk more about them!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 29 2005 at 00:27

Hellhammer!!!!!!!!

but even better then all, the drummer in the White Stripes.  She's crazy on the drums...watch out neil!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 28 2005 at 21:46

mmm...what about the drummer from franz ferdinand??? hahahahaha...now thats being a bad drummer!!!!

hehehehe, well now, I also nomite Portnoy...but Im sure there must be some other excellent drummers out there from whom I have never heard of...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 28 2005 at 21:35
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