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Topic: Strangely similar songs Posted: December 11 2016 at 12:15
Ever noticed the similarity between King Crimson's chapman stick on the song "Elephant Talk" (Discipline) and Claypool's bass on "Jerry was a Race Car Driver" (Sailing the Seas of Cheese)?
Also, the resemblance between the guitar part of "The Big Sky" by Kate Bush (Hounds of Love) about 2:10 onwards and Genesis' opening guitar riff on "Land of Confusion" really struck me this morning.
Any other example of similar sounding song parts that make you wonder if an artist "copied" another?
Edited by Larkstongue41 - December 11 2016 at 13:33
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Posted: December 11 2016 at 13:28
The chord progression from Pink Floyd's Time sounds very similar to George Harrison's Hear Me Lord. I don't really think that there's any real plagiarism afoot, though; while it's not as ubiquitous as the I-V-vi-IV or the 12-bar, it wouldn't surprise me that they came up with them independently.
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Posted: December 11 2016 at 14:17
About 1:10 in sounds like the main theme of...
That's the best one I have off the top of my head. I'm pretty sure there's a part of that album that feels like Focus as well, I'll have to look for it.
Pink Floyd's A Saucerful of Secrets has like half a dozen segments that sound reminiscent to other artists (Tangerine Dream especially, also Nektar and Van Der Graaf Generator). SBB's Memento Z Banalym Triptykiem has a brief composition that sort of sounds like a bit of Camel's The Snow Goose. I could list examples from neo-prog, but we'd be here all day (does Pendragon even have a reason to exist?).
Wow, I never noticed the similarity between "Smog Alado" and "E Festa". Nice one .
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Posted: December 11 2016 at 16:59
mechanicalflattery wrote:
About 1:10 in sounds like the main theme of...
That's the best one I have off the top of my head. I'm pretty sure there's a part of that album that feels like Focus as well, I'll have to look for it.
Pink Floyd's A Saucerful of Secrets has like half a dozen segments that sound reminiscent to other artists (Tangerine Dream especially, also Nektar and Van Der Graaf Generator). SBB's Memento Z Banalym Triptykiem has a brief composition that sort of sounds like a bit of Camel's The Snow Goose. I could list examples from neo-prog, but we'd be here all day (does Pendragon even have a reason to exist?).
Great one with Bacamarte and PFM. In turn, both of them also sound very similar to this:
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Posted: December 11 2016 at 17:28
I've been wondering for some time if the first part of Im Schatten De Mohre (great album by the way) by Hirsche Nicht Aufs Sofa samples King Crimson's Prelude: Song of the Gulls. Might as well ask someone here. Not that any of you are familiar with this album, but it sounds too close to me to not be a direct sample.
The KC track isn't on Youtube as far as I can tell, so check your own version (I'm sure Magnum knows it by heart)
Possible sample starts around 2:00
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Posted: December 11 2016 at 18:03
mechanicalflattery wrote:
I've been wondering for some time if the first part of Im Schatten De Mohre (great album by the way) by Hirsche Nicht Aufs Sofa samples King Crimson's Prelude: Song of the Gulls. Might as well ask someone here. Not that any of you are familiar with this album, but it sounds too close to me to not be a direct sample.
The KC track isn't on Youtube as far as I can tell, so check your own version (I'm sure Magnum knows it by heart)
Possible sample starts around 2:00
the album title is "Im Schatten der Möhre" which means "In the Shade of the Carrot"
Edited by BaldJean - December 13 2016 at 22:31
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Posted: December 11 2016 at 18:22
mechanicalflattery wrote:
I've been wondering for some time if the first part of Im Schatten De Mohre (great album by the way) by Hirsche Nicht Aufs Sofa samples King Crimson's Prelude: Song of the Gulls. Might as well ask someone here. Not that any of you are familiar with this album, but it sounds too close to me to not be a direct sample.
The KC track isn't on Youtube as far as I can tell, so check your own version (I'm sure Magnum knows it by heart)
Possible sample starts around 2:00
Has my admiration and infatuation with Song of The Gulls finally amounted to some sort of practical importance? Could it really be?
Hmmm, hard to tell for sure because it sits so low in the mix. I can definitely hear the pizzicato waltz figure that runs through the background of Song of the Gulls, but I don't hear any of the violin/viola/cello/whatever melody that plays over top of it. In the original King Crimson recording (which is the only recording, as the Steven Wilson remaster doesn't include any alternate takes), there aren't any bars where the pizzicato figure plays alone. However, there are about 2 bars ~3 minutes in where the other strings are quiet enough that if you were to sample it, I'm sure you could easily remove them with some digital trickery.
So I can't say for certain that Hirsche Nicht Aufs Sofa sampled King Crimson, but the backing track that they use is definitely the same three note figure as Song of The Gulls, and it wouldn't be impossible for them to sample it.
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Posted: December 13 2016 at 05:46
Jethro Tull's "We Used To Know" has the same scale as "Hotel CAlifornia " by the Eagles. Also, all the songs in Horslips' album "Exiles" are quite similar to Tull's songs, specially from the "Living In The Past" album.
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Posted: December 13 2016 at 21:52
Chicago’s Wishing You Were Here uses
the same chord sequence as How-Hi-the-Li by Family.
And has anyone else thought there
was a resemblance between the refrain in Genesis’s The Fountain of Salmacis and
the chorus of I Want to Hold Your Hand by the Beatles?
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Posted: December 13 2016 at 22:05
AreYouHuman wrote:
And has anyone else thought there
was a resemblance between the refrain in Genesis’s The Fountain of Salmacis and
the chorus of I Want to Hold Your Hand by the Beatles?
As soon as I read this I spat out my drink and went to re-read it. Then I thought "what's this guy on?!?". Then I actually sang through each one in my head and now my life will never be the same. Great one!
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Posted: December 14 2016 at 22:19
Magnum Vaeltaja wrote:
AreYouHuman wrote:
And has anyone else thought there
was a resemblance between the refrain in Genesis’s The Fountain of Salmacis and
the chorus of I Want to Hold Your Hand by the Beatles?
As soon as I read this I spat out my drink and went to re-read it. Then I thought "what's this guy on?!?". Then I actually sang through each one in my head and now my life will never be the same. Great one!
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BaldFriede wrote:
Hawkwind's "Assault and Battery" and Roxy Music's "In Every Dreamhome a Heartache". Same chord progression.
That’s another one I noticed long
ago, and probably would have included it in my last post but I was in a hurry.
While
I’m not a musician, I’ve always found myself taking notice of similar chord
sequences and melodic lines, most of which can be attributed to coincidence,
but others are obvious ripoffs, i.e. the ones all over Fireballet’s first
album.I’ll have to put together a full
list one of these days.
How about this one…Focus borrowing a melodic line for
Focus III from Don’t Sleep in the Subway by Petula Clark.
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Posted: December 15 2016 at 00:35
Manuel wrote:
Jethro Tull's "We Used To Know" has the same scale as "Hotel CAlifornia " by the Eagles. Also, all the songs in Horslips' album "Exiles" are quite similar to Tull's songs, specially from the "Living In The Past" album.
Hi Manuel......you mean "Aliens" not "Exiles"..."Exiles" is an instrumental off "Aliens". As far as I my ears tell me (for the last 40 years), there is only one tract that is similar to any Tull track on Aliens and that track is "Second Avenue"....the melody is a direct rip off of "Teacher". In the official Horslips' biography "Tall Tales" it is stated..."If 'Second Avenue' sounds a little like the riff from Jethro Tull's 'Teacher', it's pure co-incidence. Maybe it was a subliminal tribute.".......
On Aliens, "New York Wakes" and "Sure The Boy Was Green" has Anderson-like flute playing (à la Thijs van Leer) but Tull never ever made songs like (or even to match IMHO) these. These 2 tracks are based on the Irish jigs 'The Fox Hunter's Jig" and "Morrison's Jig" respectively.
So as far as I am concerned most tracks on Aliens sound like Horslips...with one track ripping off Tull's Teacher....and the flute playing on 2 occasions, well yes, they are Anderson-like as far as the flute playing is concerned but the songs themselves are nothing like anything Tull ever recorded IMHO.
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Posted: December 15 2016 at 23:03
BaldJean wrote:
"Astral Traveller" by Yes and "Can-Utility and the Coastliners" by Genesis are very similar:
for those who don't hear the similarity between these two songs: listen to 2:12-3:20 and 4:09-4:30 in the Genesis song; it will all become clear then. same riff as "Astral Traveller" in the first mentioned part and very similar keyboard solo in the second
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Great one!
