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Best album ever!!!!
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Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

A good album. The best produced and performed of the Gabriel era, but I still prefer the Lamb and Foxtrot.

I think that "Lamb" was a better designed concept, and played like it, however, it may have suffered from not getting the satisfactory response THEN, that it gets NOW, and sadly, it helped PG leave the band for his own thing.

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Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Originally posted by Terrapin Station Terrapin Station wrote:

Originally posted by Modrigue Modrigue wrote:

Never understood why this was often considered as their best album.

For sure, there are great prog epics here: Dancing With The Moonlit Knight and Firth Of Fifth.
But I can't stand I know what I like... and More Fool Me. And The Battle Of Epping Forest is kind of... odd Confused

An uneven album IHMO...


Prog fans not liking something because it's odd is a new one for me. Tongue
Did you ever play some prog to a non prog fan, in a car, say? And suddenly realize that they think this music is just f**king weird? LOL
Yeah, I'm definitely familiar with folks who aren't prog fans disliking something because it's weird.
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I have gotten to where I enjoy More Fool Me. It took me years and even more years, so I can understand perfectly well anyone who doesn't. I genuinely love Battle of Epping Forest. I don't care for the vocals in Firth of Fifth, but they carry me to THE Hackett Guitar solo, so, okay. To me the very best item on the album is After the Ordeal. The only downside to that one is that it ought to have been longer. Banks didn't actually want it on he album at all, which I find stunning.
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Dancing 10/10...The a capella section always gives me goosebumps
I Know 5/10
Firth 10/10
Fool 0/10...Out of place
Battle 7/10...Outstanding vocal work
Ordeal 7/10
Cinema 10/10
Aisle 5/10

Great album, but my least favorite Gabriel era release not counting FGTTR.
            
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^Merry X-Mass to you and yours, Jose! And best wishes for the New year!

Merry Christmas Steve, I hope you have a wonderful one with you and yours also.

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^Merry X-Mass to you and yours, Jose! And best wishes for the New year!
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Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

^Well, you're more easy to please then I am. Perhaps you don't own very lousy albums. I do and I can rate Tarkus 10/10 and Love Beach 1/10. But that's just me. Smile

Steve I am shocked you actually gave it a rating, you must be expecting Santa to bring you something nice!
Or you are inebriated right now.......LOL

BTW, I don't own that album anymore, traded it in at the local record store many moons ago.

A bit of both, Jose. If it wasn't two days before Christmas, I'd give it 0/10! LOL

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Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

^Well, you're more easy to please then I am. Perhaps you don't own very lousy albums. I do and I can rate Tarkus 10/10 and Love Beach 1/10. But that's just me. Smile

Steve I am shocked you actually gave it a rating, you must be expecting Santa to bring you something nice!
Or you are inebriated right now.......LOL

BTW, I don't own that album anymore, traded it in at the local record store many moons ago.

A bit of both, Jose. If it wasn't two days before Christmas, I'd give it 0/10! LOL
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Originally posted by Terrapin Station Terrapin Station wrote:

Originally posted by Modrigue Modrigue wrote:

Never understood why this was often considered as their best album.

For sure, there are great prog epics here: Dancing With The Moonlit Knight and Firth Of Fifth.
But I can't stand I know what I like... and More Fool Me. And The Battle Of Epping Forest is kind of... odd Confused

An uneven album IHMO...


Prog fans not liking something because it's odd is a new one for me. Tongue
Did you ever play some prog to a non prog fan, in a car, say? And suddenly realize that they think this music is just f**king weird? LOL

Edited by SteveG - December 23 2016 at 14:57
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Originally posted by Terrapin Station Terrapin Station wrote:

Originally posted by Modrigue Modrigue wrote:


But I can't stand I know what I like... and More Fool Me. And The Battle Of Epping Forest is kind of... odd Confused


Prog fans not liking something because it's odd is a new one for me. Tongue


Well, I think there are way too much "vocal sections" in it
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Originally posted by Modrigue Modrigue wrote:

Never understood why this was often considered as their best album.

For sure, there are great prog epics here: Dancing With The Moonlit Knight and Firth Of Fifth.
But I can't stand I know what I like... and More Fool Me. And The Battle Of Epping Forest is kind of... odd Confused

An uneven album IHMO...


Prog fans not liking something because it's odd is a new one for me. Tongue
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And I've never really understood the massive dislike of Love Beach (well, although if part of it is some difference with the lyrics, that might make sense--but remember that I pay almost no attention to lyrics).  I know it has shorter tunes on the A side, but ELP certainly did plenty of shorter tunes, and those on Love Beach are gems for shorter pop tunes, brilliantly arranged, some of Carl Palmer's best drumming in my opinion.  Tunes like "The Gambler" are masterpieces with respect to the drum part.  Carl approached that tune so creatively, melodically/contrapuntally.

Heck, neither Works album gets near the hatred that Love Beach does, and Works Vol. 2 is ALL short songs while Works Vol. 1 has Greg Lake's side, plus Carl Palmer's side isn't anything like typical ELP.  (Of course, I'm not bringing this up to rag on the Works albums--both of which I love, but it just seems kind of hypocritical to me with respect to people ragging on Love Beach.)


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Never understood why this was often considered as their best album.

For sure, there are great prog epics here: Dancing With The Moonlit Knight and Firth Of Fifth.
But I can't stand I know what I like... and More Fool Me. And The Battle Of Epping Forest is kind of... odd Confused

An uneven album IHMO...
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Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

^Well, you're more easy to please then I am. Perhaps you don't own very lousy albums. I do and I can rate Tarkus 10/10 and Love Beach 1/10. But that's just me. Smile

Steve I am shocked you actually gave it a rating, you must be expecting Santa to bring you something nice!
Or you are inebriated right now.......LOL

BTW, I don't own that album anymore, traded it in at the local record store many moons ago.
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Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

One man's treasure is another mans' junk goes the saying.
 
Apparently.....
Anyone who thinks Love beach gets a 10 is an enigma to me.
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Yes, this is a strange one, but I'm in a festive mood, so, you know...
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Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

One man's treasure is another mans' junk goes the saying.
 
Apparently.....
Anyone who thinks Love beach gets a 10 is an enigma to me.
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One man's treasure is another mans' junk goes the saying.
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love beach a mistake i say Confused
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