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    Posted: July 18 2017 at 21:57
I'm sure that others must have said the same already, but my eyes are a bit sore to read through this lengthy thread.

Speaking as a nonbeliever (agnostic atheist), I have read the lyrics of Morse's Similtitude of a Dream and they don't bother me at all. After checking it out on youtube I can say that the music and vocals, on the other hand, I dislike. To each his or her own, but it's not my cup of tea.

I didn't particularly enjoy the Morse "poetry", the rhymes seem a bit forced, but I commonly don't mind religious lyrics, and in fact love many Church hymns and religious themed poetry. Of course like any subject matter, sometimes I find the lyrics on a subject better to be done better and more poignant and interesting by some than by others. I also have many religious, and occult, themed recordings, including folk, classical and rock, in my collection that I love. I'm listening to Coven's Witchcraft right now, and the lyrics don't bother me either no matter what I personally think about Satanism.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 18 2017 at 09:15
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 18 2017 at 09:09
Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgh! s*** d`oh and phew! why the same old seem bulls*** going on and on about the "Christian Lyrics" please just don't listen if its not what you're bag plan and simple its also like the doom metal band "Trouble" same issue personnel I take in what I wish or take it out if I don't at the end of the day its nothing really...Confused 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 14 2017 at 05:26
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 14 2017 at 05:05
Originally posted by Mascodagama Mascodagama wrote:

Originally posted by M27Barney M27Barney wrote:

No profanity - or vulgarity - just a bit of satire and dismantling a faith-based world-view? Perhaps those who disagree would like me to be executed for blasphemy? Just a thought.
Speaking as an atheist, I wish you'd just give it a rest. The hysterical ranting in your review is exactly the kind of thing that gives the rest of us non-believers a bad name. It doesn't do anything to 'dismantle a faith-based world-view' and will not change anyone's mind about anything. The suggestion that people who disagree with you are zealots who'd see you executed for blasphemy is just silly and demeaning.
"Hysterical Ranting"? - My review was nothing of the sort. And as I said before (I hate repeating myself) I don't identify with any group particularly the "strident" atheist group (I am homo sapiens and that's as far as the grouping should go (seriously)) - the main thrust of my review was that (lyrically) - Morse was just re-hashing his usual dogma - and who would argue with that?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 14 2017 at 04:46
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 14 2017 at 04:20
Originally posted by Tom Ozric Tom Ozric wrote:

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Great song, Best album? imo

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 14 2017 at 04:09
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 14 2017 at 04:02
Deja vu 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 14 2017 at 03:55
When one realises that there is no 'God' or 'higher' being, only then shall the World realise we are just mere mortals.
Only basic psychology will annihilate the weak.......
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 14 2017 at 03:47
Originally posted by Tom Ozric Tom Ozric wrote:

When one realises that there is no 'God' or 'higher' being, only then shall the World realise we are just mere mortals.
Only basic psychology will annihilate the weak.......

No only that but how fragile we are, something I suspect many aren't ready to admit (like, "look at me, I lift weights"?) 

Ironically, it's a crisis for many but it's not even important, it's ego. 




Big deep things on a thread about the ex-singer of Spocks Beard?  lol
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 14 2017 at 03:35
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 14 2017 at 02:59
Originally posted by Mascodagama Mascodagama wrote:

Originally posted by Thatfabulousalien Thatfabulousalien wrote:

Originally posted by Mascodagama Mascodagama wrote:

 The hysterical ranting in your review is exactly the kind of thing that gives the rest of us non-believers a bad name.

Apart from prog (obviously via this site), the only inherent thing we have in common (generally speaking) is that we don't believe in that religion. How are we a definable "group" because we don't believe in that? 

Any religion surely?

I agree that "we" aren't a group in any meaningful sense, and could have expressed myself better.  I was actually trying to put across my sense of chagrin when I read stuff like Barney's that some may be lead to believe this kind of polarising rhetoric is representative of those who don't think deities, souls etc are a thing.

Yes, I don't believe in any religion whatsoever. 

It just irked me a little the suggestion of sorts of atheists as a 'group' and I see now you meant the opposite. 


At the end of it for me though, it feels ridiculous that there is even a word called 'atheism' aka, like religion is just a default you are born with, lol


Edited by Thatfabulousalien - July 14 2017 at 03:00
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 14 2017 at 02:53
Originally posted by Thatfabulousalien Thatfabulousalien wrote:

Originally posted by Mascodagama Mascodagama wrote:

 The hysterical ranting in your review is exactly the kind of thing that gives the rest of us non-believers a bad name.

Apart from prog (obviously via this site), the only inherent thing we have in common (generally speaking) is that we don't believe in that religion. How are we a definable "group" because we don't believe in that? 

Any religion surely?

I agree that "we" aren't a group in any meaningful sense, and could have expressed myself better.  I was actually trying to put across my sense of chagrin when I read stuff like Barney's that some may be lead to believe this kind of polarising rhetoric is representative of those who don't think deities, souls etc are a thing.


Edited by Mascodagama - July 14 2017 at 02:54
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 14 2017 at 02:04
Originally posted by Mascodagama Mascodagama wrote:

 The hysterical ranting in your review is exactly the kind of thing that gives the rest of us non-believers a bad name.

Apart from prog (obviously via this site), the only inherent thing we have in common (generally speaking) is that we don't believe in that religion. How are we a definable "group" because we don't believe in that? 


Edited by Thatfabulousalien - July 14 2017 at 02:05
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 14 2017 at 02:02
The real question lurking under this thread for the whole time:

Are Christians able to enjoy Neal Morse's music? 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 14 2017 at 01:33
Originally posted by M27Barney M27Barney wrote:

No profanity - or vulgarity - just a bit of satire and dismantling a faith-based world-view? Perhaps those who disagree would like me to be executed for blasphemy? Just a thought.
Speaking as an atheist, I wish you'd just give it a rest. The hysterical ranting in your review is exactly the kind of thing that gives the rest of us non-believers a bad name. It doesn't do anything to 'dismantle a faith-based world-view' and will not change anyone's mind about anything. The suggestion that people who disagree with you are zealots who'd see you executed for blasphemy is just silly and demeaning.

Edited by Mascodagama - July 14 2017 at 01:33
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 14 2017 at 00:28
Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

Uh....I'd like to know which Morse album was reviewed here at PA that started all the brouhaha....?

Never mind....I found the review. I thought Barney was right on about the fact that it's getting a bit  tedious on the religious level, but not enough about the actual music.
I thought long and hard - before I put 0's and 1's into a word-pad document.
It was deliberate that I mentioned the music with the one line - emphasising that the music/lyrical content ratio is annoying - more - so because the music that back's it up is sublime. If the CD had been released with a instrumental version - I would have been as happy as a kid in a toyshop!
I have two - Nightwish CD's - which both come with instrumental CD's (interestingly both CD's have quite rational / humanist non religious lyrics, so maybe they have released the music for those who would be offended by non-religious rationalism Wink).
I do not think that my review broke the guidelines - Mod's - do you disagree? No profanity - or vulgarity - just a bit of satire and dismantling a faith-based world-view? Perhaps those who disagree would like me to be executed for blasphemy? Just a thought.
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