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    Posted: August 24 2017 at 20:46
Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

Looks like Fripp and Belew are having a bit of a tiff about Crimson playing Indiscipline with vocals. Belew thought they had an agreement to only play his stuff as instrumentals. Bit of dirty laundry being aired on the acrimony surrounding his departure. Apparently he wanted everyone in the band except him and Fripp to be treated as hired sidemen rather than equal split 8 ways.


Yeah, it was a bit shocking to hear Discipline-era music live (Chicago, 28 June 2017) considering the acrimony of Adrian being "fired" by Fripp!  

They performed it well, but nobody could replace Adrian's fiery performance on that one.  


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Looks like Fripp and Belew are having a bit of a tiff about Crimson playing Indiscipline with vocals. Belew thought they had an agreement to only play his stuff as instrumentals. Bit of dirty laundry being aired on the acrimony surrounding his departure. Apparently he wanted everyone in the band except him and Fripp to be treated as hired sidemen rather than equal split 8 ways.

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Originally posted by socrates17 socrates17 wrote:

Sorry if this has been discussed elsewhere, but the set lists that I've seen don't include anything from the Discipline era (except Indiscipline) or the double trio era.  I'm certainly happy with what I'm getting (I have a ticket for the Beacon Nov. 18th) but it seems odd since they're covering the rest of the band's history.  Maybe Robert doesn't want Adrian to earn any royalties?  Opinions?

I presume it's partly because that stuff has been played often in recent history, at least more so than things like Epitath and ITCOTCK. This feels much more like a 'history of KC' tour phase (even if things like Level Five and TCOL have survived...they are certainly outnumbered by older material). Also, personally, I think part of it would be that Jakko's voice is more suited to the older material. His interpretation of Indiscipline was pretty funny (and incredibly Jakko) but a fair departure from Belewness.

Also, they did play Neurotica on this recent jaunt.  

That said, probably best not to try and guess Fripp's logic. :p
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Hi, I'm not sure this is the right place to ask this, but I am trying to find which version of "Frame-by-Frame' this video is using? I am particularly interested in the bass playing on this version (I play bass :) Thanks!

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Sorry if this has been discussed elsewhere, but the set lists that I've seen don't include anything from the Discipline era (except Indiscipline) or the double trio era.  I'm certainly happy with what I'm getting (I have a ticket for the Beacon Nov. 18th) but it seems odd since they're covering the rest of the band's history.  Maybe Robert doesn't want Adrian to earn any royalties?  Opinions?
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I saw the Seattle show last month - really a great performance, but I thought the 2014 show/tour was slightly better.  Still, a great night.  I do kinda wish they had done something from the '80's albums ('Three' was my introduction to the band, so I have a soft spot in my heart for that stuff), but that's ok.
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Will be at both Albany shows....and will be greatly pleased with whatever setlist presents itself....
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^ Absolutely. I was beyond grateful they didn't play Heroes at all. 
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Their "Heroes" is quite fun, but I definitely would have given it up quite willingly to have heard Fracture!  Ah well.
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I drive up Monday  to Red Bank, NJ,  and saw the show. What an amazing show! The performances from all the band members were outstanding. They came on stage about 8:10, and ended the show about 11:15, with a 20 minute intermission. To my very pleasant surprise, they played Fracture halfway through the first set, followed by Epitaph. I considered myself lucky to have been there for those two songs in which they have rarely played in concert over the years. They also played Cirkus, Lizard- Battle of Glass Tears, Fallen Angel, Indiscipline, and Easy Money, which were all great. The drummers each performed drum solos, in the middle of 21st Century Schizoid Man. I thought this concert was even better than the last time I saw them in Philadelphia 3 years ago.
On the Jam Base web site, there are pictures from the concert, and one picture show the set list posted on a door. The song "Heroes" is listed during the encore, but wasn't played. It was pretty late, so I guess they decided to scrap that song. Not really disappointed. I would definitely recommend you see them if you get the chance.
I see they're coming to Washington and Philadelphia in the fall. I'd love to see them again, but not sure I'll be able to.  Let see if they break out with more songs they haven't played in years like Great Deceiver, Lament, Devil's Triangle, or Cat Food.
 
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Any chance of them revisiting dear old Blighty?


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Fall 2017 USA tour dates officially announced:  https://www.dgmlive.com/news/USA%20Fall%20tour%20announced

19 Oct Bass Performance Hall, Austin
21 Oct Music Hall, Dallas
23 Oct Center Stage, Atlanta
24 Oct Center Stage, Atlanta
26 Oct Duke Energy Centre for the Performing Arts, Raleigh
28 Oct Lisner Auditorium, Washington D.C.
29 Oct Lisner Auditorium, Washington D.C.
31 Oct New Jersey Performing Arts Centre, Newark
02 Nov Merriam Theatre, Philadelphia
03 Nov Merriam Theatre, Philadelphia
06 Nov Orpheum Theatre, Boston
08 Nov The Egg, Albany
09 Nov The Egg, Albany
11 Nov Miller Symphony Hall, Allentown
17 Nov Beacon Theatre, New York
18 Nov Beacon Theatre, New York
22 Nov Michigan Theatre, Ann Arbor
24 Nov Hard Rock Cafe, Cleveland
26 Nov Riverside Theatre, Milwaukee
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^ And they played it tonight!!

Too knackered to do a proper review at this point...but a fantastic show. what a noise they make. <3
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^ They played it pretty extensively on their last European tour, but only on a couple shows thus far on this American tour.
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Originally posted by Crimsonsnowdog Crimsonsnowdog wrote:

I've been looking at their set lists on this tour, and they've been quite amazing! There were also a few concerts where they played Fracture and Exiles, and even played Epitaph at one or two of the concerts.  

Are you sure they played 'Fracture'!!!!! I would love to see and hear Fripp playing this. It's awesome. I was under the impression it wasn't suited to his new tuning. 
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^ that's great. I'm shocked Frippy cares that much about PE!

And Boston in November eh? Maybe those NYC dates in the fall will actually come to fruition afterall....
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Robert Fripp just quoted one of my PE posts on his FB page, looks like he's trawling the internet for criticism, too funny, he also replied to my post confirming Crimson in Boston in early November. Sweet.
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I've been looking at their set lists on this tour, and they've been quite amazing! There were also a few concerts where they played Fracture and Exiles, and even played Epitaph at one or two of the concerts.  I saw them three years ago in Philadelphia, and would definitely loved to see them play again. The songs I's really like to hear, that they didn't play last time would be Circus, Battle of Glass Tears, Fallen Angel, Fracture, Indiscipline, Easy Money, In the Court of the Crimson King, and Epitaph.
 
On the Jambase website it says there will be a tour in the autumn to include New York City, but I haven't heard anything in the last few months. Maybe their waiting to finish this tour, before booking sites for the fall tour.
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