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Posted: January 23 2021 at 09:44
SteveG wrote:
kenethlevine wrote:
Why is it that people like me with no children care so much about the environmental catastrophe while those family values people who have children only care about the here and now. Discuss
The simple answer Ken is that people with children are concerned with keeping food on the table at the moment. Big families cost big money and I think that keeps big family parents firmly focused on the here and now. Also, diching the Buckeye Pipeline also ditches jobs. Something we don't need right now. Or ever.
There is some truth to that but a lot of the people who care least are very rich
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Posted: January 23 2021 at 10:18
From some comments above it seems there are two assumptions being made that I find too early to be made: One, that Biden is stopping the pipeline but doing nothing about fracking, and two, that he won't be emphasising renewable energy development.
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Posted: January 23 2021 at 10:55
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From some comments above it seems there are two assumptions being made that I find too early to be made: One, that Biden is stopping the pipeline but doing nothing about fracking, and two, that he won't be emphasising renewable energy development.
It's only been a few days.
I didn't say anything like that. I merely pointed out what in my opinion is important.
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Posted: January 23 2021 at 12:20
npjnpj wrote:
From some comments above it seems there are two assumptions being made that I find too early to be made: One, that Biden is stopping the pipeline but doing nothing about fracking, and two, that he won't be emphasising renewable energy development.
It's only been a few days.
Biden cant do much about fracking. That was in place long before Trump, but we were just discussing which was worse and not assuming what he will or will not do next. We're many things but psychic we're not. Well, I'm not but I don't know for sure about Friede.
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Posted: January 23 2021 at 13:16
SteveG wrote:
npjnpj wrote:
From some comments above it seems there are two assumptions being made that I find too early to be made: One, that Biden is stopping the pipeline but doing nothing about fracking, and two, that he won't be emphasising renewable energy development.
It's only been a few days.
Biden cant do much about fracking. That was in place long before Trump, but we were just discussing which was worse and not assuming what he will or will not do next. We're many things but psychic we're not. Well, I'm not but I don't know for sure about Friede.
Don't worry about that. I am only psychic with Jean; we two have an almost symbiotic relationship. It is sometimes even spooky for us how well we read the other's mind.
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Posted: January 23 2021 at 15:11
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SteveG wrote:
npjnpj wrote:
From some comments above it seems there are two assumptions being made that I find too early to be made: One, that Biden is stopping the pipeline but doing nothing about fracking, and two, that he won't be emphasising renewable energy development.
It's only been a few days.
Biden cant do much about fracking. That was in place long before Trump, but we were just discussing which was worse and not assuming what he will or will not do next. We're many things but psychic we're not. Well, I'm not but I don't know for sure about Friede.
Don't worry about that. I am only psychic with Jean; we two have an almost symbiotic relationship. It is sometimes even spooky for us how well we read the other's mind.
I can't say that I'm surprised. I bet that you two complete each other's sentences.
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Posted: January 23 2021 at 19:38
npjnpj wrote:
From some comments above it seems there are two assumptions being made that I find too early to be made: One, that Biden is stopping the pipeline but doing nothing about fracking, and two, that he won't be emphasising renewable energy development.
It's only been a few days.
Well, precisely since it's only been a few days, the optics are terrible. Don't you think he could have waited to line up a big ticket renewable energy project before scrapping the pipeline? What was the tearing hurry to cancel it? I am surprised and somehow to me, this suggests it is already a Kamala Harris Presidency and he is preparing her for the inevitable transition. Because I don't believe Biden's own political instincts could be so bad.
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Posted: January 24 2021 at 07:23
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A little late but...
yeah, this was funny as f**k! But Maher's last show was bad. He had an anti BLM anti Democrat guest on and Maher kissed his ass in an attempt to be more inclusive. It was pathetic. And to make it worse, the dude was black. He could have pushed back a bit on the guy. What's next? QAnon members?
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Posted: January 24 2021 at 07:28
^He does that sometimes and you are correct, he want's to allow a discussion between the factions so avoids the obvious "You're an idiot" response most of them deserve. I'll be watching this week's show later today.
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Posted: January 24 2021 at 07:30
JD wrote:
^He does that sometimes and you are correct, he want's to allow a discussion between the factions so avoids the obvious "You're an idiot" response most of them deserve. I'll be watching this week's show later today.
yeah, he doesn't have to insult the guy, just disagree.
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Posted: January 25 2021 at 15:54
SteveG wrote:
Btw, how does it feel to have normal non Trump discussions?
I only joined this thread a while back because some trumpateers were trying use this thread to spread propaganda. I can't possibly sit back and be passive about something like that, same goes for other web sites I participate on. Other than that, I just enjoy coming here and reading what people think about whatever.
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Posted: January 25 2021 at 17:56
The House sent the articles of impeachment to the Senate this evening. It is about as open and shut of a slam dunk case if there ever has been one, but sadly, I will be shocked if the Senate convicts him. I just can't see them getting 17 Republicans to vote to convict no matter what the evidence presented says. It is times like this where you really see what a sham our government really is.
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Posted: January 26 2021 at 04:30
the Republicans have in my opinion only one chance to politically survive: to vote for the articles of impeachment in the senate. if they don't they will not only be seen as totally corrupt, they will also have to run against the Trump party, provided he will really found it. and then they will shrink to insignificance.
but since many Republicans have not only proven to be corrupt but also as being total morons (Josh Hawley, Ted Cruz, Lauren Boebert, Marjorie Taylor Green, Lindsey Graham; the list could go on and on) my guess is they will happily commit collective suicide.
and this is the fitting music to accompany it:
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A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta
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Posted: January 26 2021 at 08:40
The Republicans, by not going after Trump, will be heroes to the 74 million who voted for him. Mitch McConnell is no fool and that's what makes him so dangerous. The modern Republican party will not change and is not going anywhere for a long, long time.
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SteveG wrote:
yeah, this was funny as f**k! But Maher's last show was bad. He had an anti BLM anti Democrat guest on and Maher kissed his ass in an attempt to be more inclusive. It was pathetic. And to make it worse, the dude was black. He could have pushed back a bit on the guy. What's next? QAnon members?
