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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Dean Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 20 2017 at 11:51
As I said, we can't even agree on what music is, let alone decide whether it is art or not, and the same is true of every art-form. If we impose boundaries on what we regard art to be then those boundaries are defined by our prejudices not our preferences, so commenting on what is and is not art speaks more about our prejudices (and, it has to be said, our education) than it does about the art we are purporting to comment upon. Once we start discussing the worth and value of art as being two sides of two different coins then all subjective judgements we make become trivial and without merit - what separates art from craft is not commercialism but merely perception of value over worth - and we reflect this in the language we use when discussing art and this especially true in music where all recorded works are set with same stickered ticket-price regardless of their actual value to us, and that's the difference between being priceless and worthless.

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Punk regarded prog as pretentious.

What a nerve. With prog you got great ideas, brilliant musicianship and a way of elevating rock and pop into a sophisticated level rivaling classical music so much John Williams responded with his band Sky. Boundaries were blurred and glories achieved. It's not for nothing that the 1970s are tinged with this "golden era" ideal.

Punk had basic rock and roll (only often way more horrendous) before that turned into new wave and new art rock. You can't stop intent to express no matter how much you try Johnny. I really didn't like punk trying to make the dunce of the class into king of the world. All they did was create pop and social cultural fear, truly back in the USSR. Open minds versus knuckle heads any day.

Having said that there is much laughter to be had from the more fanatical and narrow minded in the extreme noise maker categories. Which is not all punks. I remember turning up at a punk thrash years ago. They wondered what someone like me (long haired type) was doing there (curiosity) and were actually very nice. Set me an example as I am not being a pretentious prog snob. ;)


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