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mlkpad14
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Topic: Prog-Related Posted: March 23 2017 at 05:16 |
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None of these are listed on PA. Do you think they should be?
Vote for whichever ones you feel are relevant, or just vote for all! There's no way to lengthen polls when editing, but I will list more bands/artists here: -BB King -Eric Clapton -Cream -The Yardbirds -Joe Satriani -Boston -Derek and the Dominos -Creedence Clearwater Revival -Grateful Dead -Dire Straits
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SteveG
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Posted: March 23 2017 at 05:25 | |
You forgot to include Culture Club.
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mlkpad14
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Posted: March 23 2017 at 05:28 | |
My guess is that collaborators and reviewers will skim this poll and consider that as well. :) |
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Easy Money
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Posted: March 23 2017 at 06:34 | |
What about Barry Manilow, he used Chopin chord progressions in at least one of his songs.
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mechanicalflattery
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Posted: March 23 2017 at 06:55 | |
I'd have to look into Massive Attack, but for the rest of those, absolutely not. Also, Santana is on this site.
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someone_else
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Posted: March 23 2017 at 07:24 | |
If one of the bands mentioned should ever be included I'll suggest the Nina Hagen Band for Eclectic and ABBA for RIO/Avant.
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aglasshouse
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Posted: March 23 2017 at 07:38 | |
You know, a lot of people refer to Boston as a hard prog band, but I mean I just can't see it. All I've really experienced progressive from them is 'Foreplay / Long Time' I think, and even that isn't cut-and-dry.
As for what I think should be in prog-related? Allman Brothers, no question.
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Sean Trane
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Posted: March 23 2017 at 08:03 | |
Elton John has more proggy tracks than Boston do... Funeral For a Friend (on Yellow Brick Road) and Indian Summer (on Madmen Across the Water)
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Tapfret
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Posted: March 23 2017 at 11:15 | |
I'll consider Adam Ant, Devo, and P-Model way before any of these choices.
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Dean
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Posted: March 23 2017 at 12:42 | |
What next, The Archies for Proto Prog?
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What?
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Man With Hat
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Posted: March 23 2017 at 12:57 | |
No across the board.
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mlkpad14
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Posted: March 23 2017 at 13:45 | |
Why not?
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mlkpad14
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Posted: March 23 2017 at 13:46 | |
I'll include Elton John as well. :)
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Logan
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Posted: March 23 2017 at 15:52 | |
As for the poll, I don't know any of them well enough to have a sufficiently informed opinion. In terms of the others listed in the initial post, I have seen Cream as a proto-prog band, but I seem to be very much in the minority. There are a great many bands/ artists not in PA that have some progressive rock relation (P-Funk for instance, and I expect Abba was mentioned as a joke before, but the song "Eagle" sounds proggy to me -- doesn't mean that I think that Abba should be included).
One artist that I've been keen on being included is William Sheller for Lux Aeterna (his debut album) in particular, which is a sort of Symphonic Prog/ Psych album meets "classical choral music". He has some other material that would fit the site, but not another whole album's worth that I am aware of. The problem is that he has released over twenty albums since his imo Prog debut in 1972. Due to complete discography issues, unless we had a Various Artists category for Prog albums by such mostly non-Prog artists, I wouldn't expect William Sheller to be included in PA. |
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Posted: March 23 2017 at 16:12 | |
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mlkpad14
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Posted: March 23 2017 at 16:30 | |
Thanks! Many are in fact taking this poll as a joke, but I'm afraid I'm very serious, and so are you! Maybe my definition of prog is a bit too wide, or I'm just too young. However, I've heard about everything from these bands and I'm very familiar with the prog scene. Progressiveness, in my opinion, does not come from small elements and individual songs, but usually the whole album. Guns N Roses, for example have an album called Use Your Illusion II. It's my favorite album by them, and while no individual song is prog (except maybe Estranged), the album itself creates a very unique atmosphere. It builds up on you, and the songs, although they don't transition into each other, create a bigger picture. However, that's definitely not the best of it. Actually, that's one of the least relevant bands on my list. Way more relevant is Massive Attack. Though dubbed trip hop, their albums Mezzanine and Blue Lines create an experience very similar to Radiohead. Their songs, unlike in Use Your Illusion II, flow into each other. The atmosphere is just brilliant, and it does build up on me - immensely. I'll include one more example. Dire Straits is one of the most rewarding hard rock bands in my opinion. And I actually think of them, not by album but by hit song. Money for Nothing (happens to be a collaboration with Sting) is a long piece that for whatever reason reminds me of Porcupine Tree's singular song called Anesthetize. I think that if you listen to Money for Nothing you'll know what I'm talking about - yet it isn't something that you can put into words. The Sultans of Swing is a way shorter piece that has a sort of jazzy swing to it, hence the name. Nothing progressive about it though. Or so I thought... until about my hundredth listen! Wow it builds up on you! Isn't that really what it means to be progressive?
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mlkpad14
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Posted: March 23 2017 at 16:38 | |
Hmmm... Prog Archives Metal Music Archives Jazz Music Archives Proto Prog Archives Ok.
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Raccoon
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Posted: March 23 2017 at 19:44 | |
Milton Nascimento, Marcos Valle, Pescado Rabioso, Arthur Verocai, Jorge Ben, Lula Cortez & Ze Ramalho's Paebiru, Nelson Angelo E Joyce, The Seatbelts, Orchestral Maneuvers in the Dark, Shiina Ringo & Soda Stereo ;) They aren't completely prog, they've had their moments.. But the active members of this site deserve to discover the treasure-trove that Brazil is, but is sadly very underrepresented in Progarchives.
I think Milton Nascimento sure as hell belongs on Progarchives though, each album had symphonic qualities, jazz elements, almost RIO in nature with Milgres Dos Peixes and Minas. From your list, Depeche Mode is a quite unique band but probably shouldn't be on here for.. really any reason. Good music though! |
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Vompatti
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Posted: March 23 2017 at 19:46 | |
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zravkapt
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Posted: March 23 2017 at 20:01 | |
Out of all the ones listed (between the poll and the OP) those two are about the only ones you could make a serious argument for inclusion in proto/related. Why stop with those listed, how about adding these too: Elton John Faith No More Aphex Twin Type O Negative Sonic Youth Funkadelic Dragonforce Public Enemy NoMeansNo Sun Ra Enya Megadeth Coldplay The Nitty Gritty Dirt Band Lee "Scratch" Perry I want to wake up one day to find that 75% of all recorded music is in the PA database. |
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