S.Wilson: "Rap now is more innovative than Rock"

Mascodagama wrote: ^  Last Poets, Gil Scott-Heron and Umar Bin Hassan rule

^ And right now (and for at least ten to fifteen years) it's the Hip hop artists.  

BTW:  the phrase 'Rap' vs. 'Hip hop' is not so important to this discussion, and, though a legitimate question and perhaps interesting debate, is not pertinent here.   For those wanting a technical explanation of the difference, or for those wanting to know why they should like Hip hop, that's a red herring.   No one can get you to appreciate a style of anything.   Did I like abstract art when I was a teen?   No I didn't.   Do I now?   You bet.   But no one was going to convince me that Mark Rothko was a genius until I'd already kinda decided that myself.   Same with 20th century classical and Electronic music, Noir films, and stinky cheeses.

We should sell thimbles of stinky cheese here on PA.

Atavachron wrote: Rap has been more innovative than rock for quite some time.

Edited by Sean Trane - August 04 2017 at 02:53

Could someone post a you tube clip of what they think is innovative hip hop/ rap...?

A Person wrote: I feel like if you think that you probably haven't listened to hip-hop made since the 80s.

Oh, you can't escape rap/hip-hop in the last three decades, so anyone has heard it, some with a more open mind than others.

As I said, I like some rap, but in small doses

dr wu23 wrote: Could someone post a you tube clip of what they think is innovative hip hop/ rap...? It might help those of us who are oblivious to this music.

exactly... Not that I'm oblivious to rap, but the only three examples of this thread in page 1 are anything but innovative

Anyone who would affirm that based on these three clips, one might think he's not aware that rap in its present form exists for more than three decades. And the precursor of rap, Gil Scott-Heron first recorded in 69





Given these two examples, I'd say that rap actually regressed for fpur decades





Edited by Sean Trane - August 04 2017 at 17:28

No one will ever forgive you for telling them the truth.

verslibre wrote: Sean Trane wrote: This comes from the dude that denied his music was prog, and now that it's not a dirty four-letter-word anymore, his music is progressive   Also the same dude who said the Ozric Tentacles essentially "have one composition."   What did Ed Wynne ever do to him??

I think you misquoted in your editing...

My english is sometimes shaky under certain conditions, but it never sinks as  unintelligible as that sentence you attribute to me.

P.S. You were replying to Blacksword, and you even edited your post.

Thanks Sean for the Gil Scot Heron clips...I had forgotten about him...and I was in that generation.