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Posted: September 01 2017 at 01:43
Osjan over Codona and Nekropolis, coincidentally somewhat similar albums, though I feel like I do still need to hear those records by Embryo, Cos and Haniwa-Chan(didn't they share some members with Wha-Ha-Ha?)
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Posted: September 01 2017 at 02:39
First vote for The Tunes of Two Cities, as I really like that Res album, and picked it up in San Francisco a few weeks ago. Fabio Frizzi was great to see live, actually very progressive and that was unexpected (my friend's far more familiar with him than I am)
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Posted: September 01 2017 at 04:25
^Guess I never associated Associates with prog - I'm in a minority that didn't get bolwan away by Depois... besides its a 1978-album released five years later so it doesn't really represent this era.
Pleasantly surprised to see Yog Sothoth doing so well. I was certain it was doomed to end up among the ones with zero votes. Not surprised however to see Kate getting the most votes - its pretty high up on my own favorite albums (ever) and if I'm honest I may have to give it my own vote.
Daysbetween wrote:
I've only heard about half of them but voted for Fabio Frizzi closely followed by Univers Zéro. Nice selection instead of the usual albums. I liked the Zanov and am off to search youtube for the whole album to listen to.
Zanov has never been reissued (and not available for streaming or digital files) but you can still get his all albums at a reasonable price. The opening/title track here is just about my favorite slice of progressive electronic:
HackettFan wrote:
Add to the list l: Henry Kaiser - Devil in the Drain, Fred Frith and Henry Kaiser - With Friends Like These..., French, Frith, Kaiser and Thompson - Live Love Larf and Loaf
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Posted: September 01 2017 at 06:14
Zanov sounds like Jean Michel Jarre in the 70s. Depends on what you want to call progressive rock I guess. For me it was the first half of the seventies and then a lot of music, however good, just sounded recycled. Genesis, as much as the progheads hate the post Wind & Wuthering or post Gabriel albums, did the right thing by re-inventing themselves. Fripp also did the right thing by getting out of a sinking ship or quiting while he was ahead and moving on. I was into other stuff in the 80s and found that there was more to creative and adventurous music than just progressive rock during that decade. i couldn't really cast a vote here. Just because something is obscure doesn't mean it's that great.
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Posted: September 01 2017 at 07:03
Kepler62 wrote:
Zanov sounds like Jean Michel Jarre in the 70s. Depends on what you want to call progressive rock I guess. For me it was the first half of the seventies and then a lot of music, however good, just sounded recycled. Genesis, as much as the progheads hate the post Wind & Wuthering or post Gabriel albums, did the right thing by re-inventing themselves. Fripp also did the right thing by getting out of a sinking ship or quiting while he was ahead and moving on. I was into other stuff in the 80s and found that there was more to creative and adventurous music than just progressive rock during that decade. i couldn't really cast a vote here. Just because something is obscure doesn't mean it's that great.
The Zanov-tune I just posted is from a 1976-album though. I appreciate innovation but I would never hold a lack thereof against something I love. Some are best at creating art within established traditions and refining what's already there to work with. And although Tangerine Dream has a well deserved place in the history of electronic music that Zanov will never achieve - I respect him and love the beauties he created a few years "too late"* nevertheless. From a 2017 point of view my ears certainly doesn't care whether some music is recorded in 1973 or 1983. Of course the pioneers are both more important and more impressive (I also might add, often more interesting) but that stuff is mainly for music historians and not essential for my listening pleasure.
Anyway I don't know where you got the idea that I think these obscurities are great because they are obscure. I'm not some insecure teenager trying to impress you with things you haven't heard before. I'm a treasure/crate digger always on the lookout for whatever forgotten and overlooked artists I might possibly enjoy more than what gets shoved down our throats. I think these albums are great because I like them - much more than any of the relatively known alternatives I left out.
*infact he just recently released two albums sounding like lost gems from ca. 1976 and I applaud him for that because I prefer his retrosound to most modern electronic music.
Edited by Saperlipopette! - September 01 2017 at 07:42
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Posted: September 01 2017 at 11:10
^^^^ Being a little retro is not a problem for me (a a few years too late), in fact there's plenty of modern retro that has decased old retro qualities that I love. Had I the skills, I would love to make an album similar to Sven Libaek's Inner Space.
I know about two thirds of these, and love those albums, and only discovered the majority of them in the past decade, as well as most of what they are similar to, so not discovering them at the time it matters even less to me except from a historical perspective how innovative they were.
Anyway, right now I'm torn between the Frizzi and the Zanov. Giving it to Zanov, but I really love "Paura E Liberazione" off City of the Living Dead.
Incidentally, some of you might recognise this first John Hyde piece, but this which is on a 1982 album featured in Chocky in 1984 and played a part in my development of my love for electronic music.
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Posted: September 01 2017 at 15:10
Logan wrote:
^^^^ Being a little retro is not a problem for me (a a few years too late), in fact there's plenty of modern retro that has decased old retro qualities that I love. Had I the skills, I would love to make an album similar to Sven Libaek's Inner Space.
I know about two thirds of these, and love those albums, and only discovered the majority of them in the past decade, as well as most of what they are similar to, so not discovering them at the time it matters even less to me except from a historical perspective how innovative they were.
Anyway, right now I'm torn between the Frizzi and the Zanov. Giving it to Zanov, but I really love "Paura E Liberazione" off City of the Living Dead.
Incidentally, some of you might recognise this first John Hyde piece, but this which is on a 1982 album featured in Chocky in 1984 and played a part in my development of my love for electronic music.
that John Hyde was lovely. Both music and cover feels so familiar. Maybe you've posted these in another context here previously?
-oh had I either the gift to compose in the style of 70's Morricone, could I make jazz that reminded people of Herbie's Mwandishi-sextet, create soundscapes similar to (Klaus Schulze's) Mirage or had the skills to perform complex Bartok-inspired chamberprog on bassoon, I would have done so proudly - even if my individual voice or personality was the only uniquely "new" aspect about it. According to me as long as I'm enthralled or just moved, intrigued or challenged there's always room for another interpretation. It would probably still sound more forward thinking and innovative than most modern music I hear anyway.
I still haven't given any option my vote. Lately I guess for me too Zanov and Frizzi has been a bigger part of my life/listening than the handful of albums and artists here I've been a fan of for a decade or decades (AZ, UZ, Residents, Kate Bush...)
Edited by Saperlipopette! - September 01 2017 at 15:20
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Posted: September 02 2017 at 11:04
Saperlipopette! wrote:
Logan wrote:
^^^^ Being a little retro is not a problem for me (a a few years too late), in fact there's plenty of modern retro that has decased old retro qualities that I love. Had I the skills, I would love to make an album similar to Sven Libaek's Inner Space.
I know about two thirds of these, and love those albums, and only discovered the majority of them in the past decade, as well as most of what they are similar to, so not discovering them at the time it matters even less to me except from a historical perspective how innovative they were.
Anyway, right now I'm torn between the Frizzi and the Zanov. Giving it to Zanov, but I really love "Paura E Liberazione" off City of the Living Dead.
Incidentally, some of you might recognise this first John Hyde piece, but this which is on a 1982 album featured in Chocky in 1984 and played a part in my development of my love for electronic music.
<span style=": rgb248, 248, 252;"> that John Hyde was lovely. Both music and cover feels so familiar. Maybe you've posted these in another context here previously?</span>
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<span style=": rgb248, 248, 252;">-oh had I either the gift to compose in the style of 70's Morricone, could I make jazz that reminded people of Herbie's Mwandishi-sextet, create soundscapes similar to </span><span style=": rgb248, 248, 252;">(Klaus Schulze's) </span><span style=": rgb248, 248, 252;">Mirage or had the skills to perform complex Bartok-inspired chamberprog on </span>bassoon, I would have done so proudly - even if my individual voice or personality was the only uniquely "new" aspect about it. According to me as long as I'm enthralled or just moved, intrigued or challenged there's always room for another interpretation. It would probably still sound more forward thinking and innovative than most modern music I hear anyway.
I still haven't given any option my vote. Lately I guess for me too Zanov and Frizzi has been a bigger part of my life/listening than the handful of albums and artists here I've been a fan of for a decade or decades (AZ, UZ, Residents, Kate Bush...)
I've posted the first clip elsewhere when talking sci-fi shows, because Chocky is an, I think, beautiful, quite strange, and poignant children's series, but the of more stagy, teleplay kind of shows that I think more adults would enjoy these days (seems like far too many shows aimed at kids, and adults for that matter, are for the ADD audience), based on a John Wyndham novel. One of my favourite themes these days is the Stranger Things one, which deliberately has a retro 80's electronic feel to it a la Tangerine Dream.
Wholeheartedly agree with your comment about always having room for another interpretation. And if you had the gift to make music like that well, I would buy it. Side-note, but the best composers commonly emulate other composers, but then bring their personalities into it and bring in their own innovations, then the next group emulates them, and so on.... I think that Zanov is terrific, and although he makes music similar to others that came before, I would not call him derivative, and even if he were, I'd call it bloody good derivative, or no, I take that back, I'd just call it bloody good.
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Posted: September 02 2017 at 13:31
Another opportunity to vote for the Residents!
The world of sound is certainly capable of infinite variety and, were our sense developed, of infinite extensions. -- George Santayana, "The Sense of Beauty"
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