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Poll Question: What was the first hint that Genesis might turn into a pop band?
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    Posted: September 09 2017 at 11:26
What was the first hint that Genesis might turn into a pop band?
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F=/! I read that as first hint Genesis might turn into a pop brand. Like, soda or cola. I voted Misunderstanding because I thought there must be some misunderstanding. I don't doubt there is a pop brand called Genesis but it's probably unrelated to the band.
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When they got rid of Steve Hackett!!....  Frictions occurred with Tony Banks!.....
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Originally posted by noni noni wrote:

When they got rid of Steve Hackett!!....  Frictions occurred with Tony Banks!.....

I agree it was when Hackett left. I mean I love pop Genesis, but yeah that's pretty much when it happened. 
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Originally posted by YESESIS YESESIS wrote:

Originally posted by noni noni wrote:

When they got rid of Steve Hackett!!....  Frictions occurred with Tony Banks!.....

I agree it was when Hackett left. I mean I love pop Genesis, but yeah that's pretty much when it happened. 

The same happened to Peter Gabriel too!...  Love Tony Banks work but he can become a bully !!Ouch
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Follow You Follow Me was the first Genesis song I heard, which made me classify them as pop band I'm not all too interested in.
Now, 150 years later, I don't think the song is that bad actually, let alone the band as a whole.



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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote YESESIS Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 09 2017 at 15:16
Originally posted by noni noni wrote:

Originally posted by YESESIS YESESIS wrote:

Originally posted by noni noni wrote:

When they got rid of Steve Hackett!!....  Frictions occurred with Tony Banks!.....

I agree it was when Hackett left. I mean I love pop Genesis, but yeah that's pretty much when it happened. 

The same happened to Peter Gabriel too!...  Love Tony Banks work but he can become a bully !!Ouch
 

Yeah I've read that he and Gabriel butted heads a lot. I think that may be why Pete never wants to do anymore reunions or anything with them(since the one in '82).
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote noni Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 09 2017 at 15:37
Originally posted by YESESIS YESESIS wrote:

Originally posted by noni noni wrote:

Originally posted by YESESIS YESESIS wrote:

Originally posted by noni noni wrote:

When they got rid of Steve Hackett!!....  Frictions occurred with Tony Banks!.....

I agree it was when Hackett left. I mean I love pop Genesis, but yeah that's pretty much when it happened. 

The same happened to Peter Gabriel too!...  Love Tony Banks work but he can become a bully !!Ouch
 

Yeah I've read that he and Gabriel butted heads a lot. I think that may be why Pete never wants to do anymore reunions or anything with them(since the one in '82).

Steve Hackett has mentioned loads of times, he will do a reunion gig with Genesis, but nothing came about it!Cry...  He does more work on their stuff then Genesis do!!!Smile
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote YESESIS Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 09 2017 at 15:41
Originally posted by noni noni wrote:

Originally posted by YESESIS YESESIS wrote:

Originally posted by noni noni wrote:

Originally posted by YESESIS YESESIS wrote:

Originally posted by noni noni wrote:

When they got rid of Steve Hackett!!....  Frictions occurred with Tony Banks!.....

I agree it was when Hackett left. I mean I love pop Genesis, but yeah that's pretty much when it happened. 

The same happened to Peter Gabriel too!...  Love Tony Banks work but he can become a bully !!Ouch
 

Yeah I've read that he and Gabriel butted heads a lot. I think that may be why Pete never wants to do anymore reunions or anything with them(since the one in '82).

Steve Hackett has mentioned loads of times, he will do a reunion gig with Genesis, but nothing came about it!Cry...  He does more work on their stuff then Genesis do!!!Smile

lol yeah.. gotta love Steve. 
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"simple" does not equal "pop". anyone who calls "For Absent Friends" or "Harlequin" a pop song is way off the mark


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote twosteves Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 09 2017 at 16:02
follow you follow me ----with just the 3 of them left the writing was on the wall with this catchy pop song
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote AFlowerKingCrimson Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 09 2017 at 16:11
Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

"simple" does not equal "pop". anyone who calls "For Absent Friends" or "Harlequin" a pop song is way off the mark

Thanks for sharing your opinion. Smile
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I went with I know what I like. At least they were one of the few to survive a transition. I stopped at ATTWT. That was about as much as I could take.. saw them in 20017 only because I got free tickets. Absolutely horrible. Mostly because of the lousy sound and the music not synching with the big screen. Absolutely one of the worst concerts I've ever been to in my whole life.
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From the list, YOSW, but More Fool Me and Happy The Man where defintely earlier warnings
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"Follow You..." was actually very pleasant when I heard it then, and up to this day I still love the whole ATTWT .
BUT - from the feel of it, we could already anticipate what was coming next, couldn't we ?
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Either "I know what I like", "A Trick of the Tail" or "Follow you, follow me". Though they had some poppy moments before, I Know what I Like is the one that sounds to me more succesful. However, this one was on a very proggy album and even had it's proggy elements, and could be considered more like part of the whole than the new direction for the band. A Trick of the Tail is very poppy too, and given the album had some other (nice) poppy songs (and the fact that a key member of the band had just left), this should have been good signs that the band was changing their sound and direction. And then Follow you Follow me came after another key member left, and while the album did have some "conflict" between proggy and poppy tracks, the success of this particular song must have sealed the direction of the band (plus Phil's succes as a solo pop artist). However, as a first sign, I guess it should be "A Trick of the Tail".
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Originally posted by YESESIS YESESIS wrote:

Originally posted by noni noni wrote:

When they got rid of Steve Hackett!!....  Frictions occurred with Tony Banks!.....

I agree it was when Hackett left. I mean I love pop Genesis, but yeah that's pretty much when it happened. 

Yes, that's what did it.
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