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YESESIS ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 26 2017 Location: Maine Status: Offline Points: 2214 |
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I've tried to get into all three of these bands(at different times) since joining this forum, but for different reasons just couldn't. So they're each getting one last chance here with this poll.
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verslibre ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 01 2004 Location: CA Status: Offline Points: 12948 |
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1st vote for Tangerine Dream.
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DeadSouls ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: February 28 2016 Location: Chile Status: Offline Points: 4255 |
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VDGG
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progmatic ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August 22 2009 Location: Ohio Status: Offline Points: 1780 |
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VDGG then IQ then TDream
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PROGMATIC
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Larkstongue41 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 07 2015 Location: Eastern Canada Status: Offline Points: 1360 |
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Tangerine Dream - Amazing band. Difficult to get into due to their immense and quite diversified discography. You must try before giving up: Electronic Meditation (dark experimental guitar work; unlike any other TD album that I know of), either Alpha Centauri or Zeit (the Kosmische albums), either Phaedra or Rubycon (both of which are their most popular but I'm personally not a big fan of any) and either Force Majeure or Tangram ('80s sound, closer to traditional rock). They're worth it.
Van Der Graaf Generator - Another amazing band. More consistent than TD but none of their albums stun me as much as the first 3 TD albums. I don't know if it's Hammill's vocals you have a problem with or if maybe you've only heard Pawn Hearts but otherwise I don't see why someone who loves classic prog like you seem to do would not like VDGG. I suggest listening to Godbluff if you have trouble getting into them, if any is going to make you love them it's this one.The Least We Can Do is Wave to Each Other and H to He Who Am the Only One are lighter and Pawn Hearts is perhaps the most ambitious beast of all classic prog. IQ - zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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"Larks' tongues. Wrens' livers. Chaffinch brains. Jaguars' earlobes. Wolf nipple chips. Get 'em while they're hot. They're lovely. Dromedary pretzels, only half a denar."
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YESESIS ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 26 2017 Location: Maine Status: Offline Points: 2214 |
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lmao. This is helpful thanks. My issue with VDGG is that(from what I've heard from them) a lot of their lyrics seem to be basically negative in tone, and I don't like that. I like happy, silly stuff like my man Zappa. It's an even bigger issue with IQ, yes. TD was starting to put me to sleep when I listened to them lol. Maybe I should try meditating to it. Anyway, thanks again. Really good post.
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Larkstongue41 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 07 2015 Location: Eastern Canada Status: Offline Points: 1360 |
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^ My pleasure. Since you mention Zappa, let me randomly suggest you to check out Samla Mammas Manna. Quite similar to Zappa both musically and humouristically, you should dig them.
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"Larks' tongues. Wrens' livers. Chaffinch brains. Jaguars' earlobes. Wolf nipple chips. Get 'em while they're hot. They're lovely. Dromedary pretzels, only half a denar."
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YESESIS ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 26 2017 Location: Maine Status: Offline Points: 2214 |
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YESESIS ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 26 2017 Location: Maine Status: Offline Points: 2214 |
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Dellinger ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: June 18 2009 Location: Mexico Status: Offline Points: 12314 |
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I know very little TD and IQ, just one album, but VDGG are really a prog legend, so I guess it should be them. What is it that you have heard and not liked... or disliked less (or perhaps something you have actually liked). If now whole album had done the trick for you, then perhaps some songs? My particular list of very very favourite songs are: Darkness, Man-Erg, A Plague of Lighthouse Keepers (first 10 1/2 min), The Sleepwalkers, La Rossa. And perhaps the very best songs to try to warm up to them would be Darkness and Refugees. Now, on an off-topic recommendation, since you already have had some time to get into Neal Morse (surely much more than myself), if you haven't, you should really check out Big Big Train (from Underfall Yard until now, very specially the English Electric albums), they are really great, warm, positive, etc, with a very Genesis-like pastoral (and symphonic) feel (but without the trademark Gabriel theatrics).
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Logan ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() Site Admin Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Bored of Canada Status: Offline Points: 29523 |
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Try meditating to this: Anyway, I love both VdGG, especially for, as I've said before, The Least we Can Do Is Wave to Eachother -- I find Refugees and Out of My Book lovely, and I love TD. That said, I vote for TD. I used to only really love the first four albums by TD and the, I think really excellent Ricochet which I recommend you close your eyes to and give a spin at some time, but I've grown to like far more by the act. Hopefully you will come up with a VdGG songlist that you like (was going to suggest that too) even if you don't like full albums. |
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Music has the right to everyone.
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YESESIS ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 26 2017 Location: Maine Status: Offline Points: 2214 |
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Thanks for the suggestions man.
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YESESIS ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 26 2017 Location: Maine Status: Offline Points: 2214 |
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Geez you really do know your stuff, that song was wonderful for meditating. And I may have to try VdGG again, there's at least hope for them lol. King Crimson, IQ, Opeth.. I don't think so. Magma I want to like, but oh well. And this Tangerine Dream, if they have more stuff like THAT... I'm so in. Thank you for posting that. I'll have to listen to Ricochet album some time.
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Logan ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() Site Admin Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Bored of Canada Status: Offline Points: 29523 |
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Glad you liked it.
Some others you might enjoy: Silver Scale Valley of the Sun (this is representative of the kind of music I used to be really big on). Tangerine Dream - Horizon from 1983 (picks up into the track): Edited by Logan - December 11 2017 at 22:28 |
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Meltdowner ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: June 25 2013 Location: Portugal Status: Offline Points: 10163 |
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It's got to be TD! I believe the band has something for everyone, you just have to find it in their massive discography :P Looks like Greg pointed you to the right direction though.
I didn't like any VdGG until a few months ago and none of the top rated albums did it for me, but "The Quiet Zone/The Pleasure Dome" and "Vital" did.
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someone_else ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: May 02 2008 Location: Going Bananas Status: Offline Points: 23371 |
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All of these bands have some good albums. My favourite of these is Van der Graaf Generator nowadays. Peter Hammill's vocals are an acquired taste.
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b_olariu ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: March 02 2007 Location: Romania Status: Offline Points: 5193 |
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Van der Graaf Generator and IQ
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digdug ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 13 2005 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 4707 |
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I love TD .... but I love different albums than Logan does... :)
Phaedra, Rubycon, Ricochet ... Amazing |
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Prog On!
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Blacksword ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: June 22 2004 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 16120 |
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VDGG get my vote!
I love some Tangerine Dream (notably around the Rubicon era) IQ I can take or leave these days. Not a big neo fan, althogh I've seen them a few times and they're a great live act. |
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Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
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Logan ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() Site Admin Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Bored of Canada Status: Offline Points: 29523 |
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I mentioned loving Ricochet before, but it was a sloppily composed sentence. I used to be particularly into the pre-Phaedra albums, but I now love all of those albums you mentioned and more. While not the first I heard, Phaedra was the first TD album I bought, but the band really clicked for me while in my mid-2000s Prog phase when I got Electronic Meditation, then Alpha Centauri, and then Aten. Zeit took a little longer to fully appreciate. Ricochet I loved on first spin, but it was a later acquisition. Nowadays I like all of the 70s studio albums considerably and I enjoy various 80s ones too. As Samuel mentions, it's a massive discography and there's pretty much something for every taste. I've grown to appreciate various TD "phases" and still have a lot of music by the band to explore. There are various live and compilation albums that I want to get. In the late 80s through 90s, late 70s through 80s TD would have been more my style than the early albums as I was very into such stuff then. Edited by Logan - December 12 2017 at 08:27 |
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