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Mortte
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Posted: January 05 2018 at 09:01 |
Lewian wrote:
Mortte wrote:
I use google and understand it is In the court of... Well, I though same quite soon, after hearing it first time. There is something same in the Pictures Of City and Schizoid, Cadence and I Talk, tittle song and Epitaph. But to me specially that first side just is so great that it didnīt bother me at all. At the moment I love more In the wake of than Epitaph, maybe because sometimes I listened in the court of so much. How many bands of these days make a same album again and again and much duller way? |
I'd think there are lots of people here who love Poseidon but still wouldn't vote it to be KC's best on a list that has Court and all the other greats, too. I agree, arguably it's something of a Court clone but still great to listen to. It wouldn't qualify for the top spot at all with that description.
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I wouldnīt say it a court clone, because b-sides are totally different. Donīt know at all, would Fripp wanted to do it same as Court, there are even part of the tittle song heard in the end of the album although the whole other b-side is different. Anyway great album and I could imagine to vote it Crimsonīs best. It really has all that greatness that is in Crimson music. If somebody thinks Islands is the best, why not Poseidon too?
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Lewian
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Posted: January 05 2018 at 08:09 |
Mortte wrote:
I use google and understand it is In the court of... Well, I though same quite soon, after hearing it first time. There is something same in the Pictures Of City and Schizoid, Cadence and I Talk, tittle song and Epitaph. But to me specially that first side just is so great that it didnīt bother me at all. At the moment I love more In the wake of than Epitaph, maybe because sometimes I listened in the court of so much. How many bands of these days make a same album again and again and much duller way? |
I'd think there are lots of people here who love Poseidon but still wouldn't vote it to be KC's best on a list that has Court and all the other greats, too. I agree, arguably it's something of a Court clone but still great to listen to. It wouldn't qualify for the top spot at all with that description.
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Mortte
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Posted: January 05 2018 at 08:05 |
I use google and understand it is In the court of... Well, I though same quite soon, after hearing it first time. There is something same in the Pictures Of City and Schizoid, Cadence and I Talk, tittle song and Epitaph. But to me specially that first side just is so great that it didnīt bother me at all. At the moment I love more In the wake of than Epitaph, maybe because sometimes I listened in the court of so much. How many bands of these days make a same album again and again and much duller way?
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Mortte
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Posted: January 05 2018 at 07:57 |
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As much as I dig Poseidon it is still a poor man's Itchycock. It is certainly built the same way. |
No idea whatīs Itchycock. Anyway I think Poseidon work very well as an album, loved it immediately after heard it first time. Sometimes I think their only seventies "failure" was Islands (only b-side, loved always a-side) but nowadays love it too.
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kenethlevine
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Posted: January 05 2018 at 07:31 |
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They havenīt used mellotron after seventies, that I think is the one reason why I love seventies material much more. I just love that instrument! But of course not only mellotron can make music great, I donīt think Barcley James Harvest is even near of Crimson greatness although BJH has used a lot more mellotron than Crimson. |
I think both bands are great in their niche. KC is obviously much more big p Progressive.
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amity62
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Posted: January 05 2018 at 06:43 |
red
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Guldbamsen
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Posted: January 05 2018 at 04:35 |
As much as I dig Poseidon it is still a poor man's Itchycock. It is certainly built the same way.
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The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.
- Douglas Adams
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Mortte
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Posted: January 05 2018 at 04:33 |
Still no votes to Poseidon...should I vote it?
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Mortte
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Posted: January 05 2018 at 04:31 |
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Other tomfoolery? Starless & Bible Black is a better album than Red. |
Noooooo! Well, have to admit Starless & Bible is almost as great, really love The Night Watch and Trio in it. And those long jams have many great moments. Improvisations in SABB is better than Providence in Red.
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Guldbamsen
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Posted: January 05 2018 at 04:15 |
Best KC albums? Lizard and Shark Thongs.
My favourite right this minute? Islands because I just span it...also happen to vote for it.
Other tomfoolery? Starless & Bible Black is a better album than Red.
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The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.
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Mortte
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Posted: January 05 2018 at 03:09 |
"Hello Robert, can you take a part of our poll?"
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dr wu23
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Posted: January 05 2018 at 02:56 |
One wonders what Fripp's favorite is.....?
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One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin
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dr wu23
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Posted: January 05 2018 at 02:55 |
The Dark Elf wrote:
Itchycock. |
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One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin
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Frenetic Zetetic
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Posted: January 05 2018 at 02:44 |
I just listened to Lizard for the first time in years, and it's much better than I remember.
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"I am so prog, I listen to concept albums on shuffle." -KMac2021
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Mortte
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Posted: January 04 2018 at 23:27 |
In discogs cheapest young persons... with booklet is 17 euros.
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Mortte
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Posted: January 04 2018 at 23:23 |
They havenīt used mellotron after seventies, that I think is the one reason why I love seventies material much more. I just love that instrument! But of course not only mellotron can make music great, I donīt think Barcley James Harvest is even near of Crimson greatness although BJH has used a lot more mellotron than Crimson.
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Posted: January 04 2018 at 16:44 |
Larkstongue41 wrote:
Best? Discipline. |
This. For "best"--i.e. a collaboration of four musicians each at their very creative & technical peaks.
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The Dark Elf
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Posted: January 04 2018 at 16:39 |
Itchycock.
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...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology...
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kenethlevine
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Posted: January 04 2018 at 13:41 |
hmm I might still have it, thought I got rid of almost all my collection just before the market improved for albums, naturally, but I might have inherited a copy more recently.
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AFlowerKingCrimson
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Posted: January 04 2018 at 13:38 |
Oh ok. See I wouldn't know because I've never owned it or seen it. I would like to have a copy one of these days but for now I don't feel like spending 80 dollars for it(If I'm lucky)on ebay.
I like the later stuff but much of it seems to lack the imagination and experimentation of the first incarnation of the band. Not sure if you are a fan of Rush but most of their later stuff doesn't include much acoustic guitar either(after Permanent Waves) except for a bit on presto and maybe a little bit on their most recent ones.
Edited by AFlowerKingCrimson - January 04 2018 at 13:44
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