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kenethlevine
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Posted: January 04 2018 at 13:33 |
^ in the gatefold there were pictures of all the albums from KC up to that point I had the LP and you're right about peace a theme, I forgot Interestingly also, lots from the first album but not "Schizoid Man", which at the time the compilation was released was the only first album song they were playing live I think. I always loved his acoustic guitar style and the lack of it on later albums is just one of the many reasons I prefer the earlier ones
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AFlowerKingCrimson
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Posted: January 04 2018 at 13:02 |
I just looked it up on here and it seems that "peace- a theme" was on there as well. http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=1913
Anyway, I'm not sure why nothing from Lizard is on there either. I think maybe because in Fripp's mind nothing really stood out? I think the main reason is he's just not that big a fan of that album in general. Still, I think "lady of the dancing water" or "indoor games" could have been included.
Edit: Not sure why Fripp stopped using the acoustic guitar. I never noticed that before but now that you mention it you are probably right.
Also, the cover of AYPGTCK features some strange animal with twenty legs walking up a mountain with a guy playing keyboards on top of it so I'm not sure what you mean when you said the covers are on it? I only had it on cassette though so I don't know what was in the gatefold vinyl version. I actually had to send a letter requesting the booklet that came with the vinyl copy. I must have lost that booklet over 25 years ago. Lol.
Edited by AFlowerKingCrimson - January 04 2018 at 13:13
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kenethlevine
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Posted: January 04 2018 at 12:41 |
AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:
There wasn't much from "In the Wake of Poseidon" on "A Young Persons Guide" either and I think only "Ladies of the Road" from Islands. Anyway, I had that on cassette back in the eighties when I first got into KC and I wish they would reissue it on cd. |
it had only cadence and cascade and cat food I think from ITWOP, plus you could sort of count "Groon" as being from the same sessions. It was notable that there was nothing from Lizard, even though the cover was shown along with the others.
I have also heard a few great alternate versions of Cirkus from the original era, which, along with "Prince Rupert Awakes", I consider among KC's best songs. Some of Lizard is a bit too weird for me, but both it and Islands are unique within the discography, whereas to me the next 3 albums are cut from the same cloth, and the 3 1980s albums are an imperfect pair as well.
I read that "Fallen Angel" was the last time Fripp used acoustic guitar in the studio. Anyone know why he stopped using it?
Edited by kenethlevine - January 04 2018 at 12:42
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AFlowerKingCrimson
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Posted: January 04 2018 at 12:29 |
There wasn't much from "In the Wake of Poseidon" on "A Young Persons Guide" either and I think only "Ladies of the Road" from Islands. Anyway, I had that on cassette back in the eighties when I first got into KC and I wish they would reissue it on cd.
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Mortte
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Posted: January 04 2018 at 11:27 |
kenethlevine wrote:
I remember that Lizard was completely excluded from the first compilation. "A Young OPerson's Guide", and that Fripp, at least at the time, didn't like the album. I like both Lizard and Islands, but not what came after, apart from a few songs. |
Well, maybe he has started to like it because Cirkus and part of the Lizard are in the new live. Really great versions, very near of original arrangements!
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Rednight
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Posted: January 04 2018 at 11:07 |
I'd say Red, but Lizard pulled out all the plugs.
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"It just has none of the qualities of your work that I find interesting. Abandon [?] it." - Eno
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kenethlevine
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Posted: January 04 2018 at 10:40 |
I remember that Lizard was completely excluded from the first compilation. "A Young OPerson's Guide", and that Fripp, at least at the time, didn't like the album. I like both Lizard and Islands, but not what came after, apart from a few songs.
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AFlowerKingCrimson
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Posted: January 04 2018 at 10:34 |
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AFlowerKingCrimson
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Posted: January 04 2018 at 10:32 |
Larks' Tongues for me. It's unlike anything else ever made.
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Olape
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Posted: January 04 2018 at 10:18 |
LTIA, today
Then Islands, Discipline, Red, ITCOTCK, Lizard...
mechanicalflattery wrote:
Now all we need is Atom Heart Mother to win a Pink Floyd poll, and there'll be nothing left for us special snowflakes to complain about.
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Mortte
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Posted: January 04 2018 at 09:59 |
Maybe people are tired to the polls.
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dr wu23
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Posted: January 04 2018 at 09:02 |
Two things surprise me on this poll....the low number of votes in general and that Lizard received the most.
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Blacksword
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Posted: January 04 2018 at 04:46 |
Red and LTIA equally.
They never made a bad album.
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Sean Trane
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Posted: January 04 2018 at 03:59 |
More or less in order: Lizard Court Aspic Red Poseidon Thrak/Vroom Power Bible Islands Discipline the rest
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Mortte
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Posted: January 04 2018 at 01:50 |
^I will be more than glad if Atom Heart win the Floyd poll, it has been my favourite a long time.
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mechanicalflattery
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Posted: January 04 2018 at 00:27 |
Lewian wrote:
mechanicalflattery wrote:
Good to see Lizard finally having its day...
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Indeed surprising. Seems that all the Lizard lovers who up to now have always sounded as if they were the only lonely enlightened cowboy or -girl in a desert of ignorance have to stop this kind of talk now.
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Dear God... prog fans unable to bemoan how unique and misunderstood they are?! A fate worse than death...
Now all we need is Atom Heart Mother to win a Pink Floyd poll, and there'll be nothing left for us special snowflakes to complain about.
Edited by mechanicalflattery - January 04 2018 at 00:27
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Mortte
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Posted: January 03 2018 at 23:33 |
progmatic wrote:
I love the first four albums beyond belief, and "Red" as well, but voted for their first because it is the album with which I discovered prog and changed my life. It was spring of 1973 and I had just bought Led Zeppelin's "Houses of the Holy." I brought it over to my friend's house and we got sufficiently breathless before listening. When we were done my buddy said, "Bob check this out, tell me what you think." Then he played both sides of "In the Court ..." and I was totally mesmerized. I'd never heard anything like it. The way "I Talk to the Wind" evolved into "Epitaph," and the way that song touched me to my core like nothing ever had, I knew that I was hearing something incredible. The evening wound up with me trading the Zeppelin album for the Crimson and walking home practically dancing, thinking I'd really ripped off my friend.
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Great story! I was born in the year you heard it first time...This brought into my mind when I heard KC first time. My brother bought in the eighties old reel-to-reel taperecorder. He got with machine tapes that had recorded. There was compilation, where was Crimsonīs Epitaph and tittle song. That time I listened CCR, Skynyrd, Hendrix, so those KC songs sounded quite UFO to me. Many years later one my relative got In the Court Of, really remembered How I loved I talked to the wind immediately! Then I already listened Pink Floyd, Genesis, Rush and Yes.
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Mortte
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Posted: January 03 2018 at 23:27 |
I am not suprised Lizard has got some much attention. Itīs one of the strongest entity in KC albums, only "lady of the dancing water" is a little bit weaker song although itīs very beautiful. Great that Discipline has got votes too. What I am suprised is Wake of Poseidon hasnīt got any votes. I really love that album too and I think itīs really great when knowing whatīs situation band has when making the album.
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Dellinger
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Posted: January 03 2018 at 20:49 |
Court for me. And indeed I'm surprised Lizard is getting so much love now.
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Lewian
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Posted: January 03 2018 at 16:49 |
mechanicalflattery wrote:
Good to see Lizard finally having its day...
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Indeed surprising. Seems that all the Lizard lovers who up to now have always sounded as if they were the only lonely enlightened cowboy or -girl in a desert of ignorance have to stop this kind of talk now.
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