Are most prog lovers musicians ? |
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Jzrk
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Topic: Are most prog lovers musicians ? Posted: January 23 2018 at 18:11 |
I am not a musician but love music.Prog is one of my favorite genres.
It seems that prog would be most appreciated by musicians and maybe I am not a normal prog fan? Even more so on a forum.So am I alone or I wonder what the mix is here in these parts? I did my best to play some instruments in my childhood but was really never any good .It did not come natural to me and maybe it was too hard to progress so I ended up dropping playing. |
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omphaloskepsis
Forum Senior Member Joined: October 19 2011 Location: Texas Status: Offline Points: 5908 |
Posted: January 23 2018 at 19:26 |
I wish. I struggle at drums, all thumbs on keys .... bum on a guitar, saxophone sleaze, bumbling bass, always off key My flute took flight though I got music degrees I can't carry a note... Son, so don't play like me ...Jack of all trades, master of none.
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ReactioninG
Forum Senior Member Joined: November 26 2017 Location: Massachusetts Status: Offline Points: 156 |
Posted: January 23 2018 at 20:20 |
I am not a musician and do not come from a musical family. Still, I have always loved prog since as far back as I can remember.
I think one advantage of not being musically knowledgeable is that I can concentrate more on the themes, moods and lyrics and the overall musical product. I feel like it would bog someone down to concentrate on what this or that instrument is doing or whether it is being done well or in what time signature. |
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mlkpad14
Forum Senior Member Joined: January 23 2017 Location: U.S. Status: Offline Points: 665 |
Posted: January 23 2018 at 20:32 |
Guitarist here. Playing guitar has, in fact, made me appreciate a lot of prog that I would not have cared for otherwise.
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Peter
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Posted: January 23 2018 at 20:50 |
No, no more than most jazz, classical, folk. country or pop fans are.
Indeed, we can extend this to art gallery patrons: most are not artists Theatre goers: most are not actors. Readers: most are not writers. Etc. I have known many Prog fans--one plays guitar and sings (and it's not Prog). Edited by Peter - January 23 2018 at 20:51 |
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Manuel
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Posted: January 23 2018 at 20:54 |
For a while, I remember listening the phrase "Music for Musicians" when referring to Progressive music. I play guitar, Mandolin, Laud and a little piano. I played in a few bands here and there for a while, but I think my main influence in choosing music to listen to instead of music to dance to, was my grandfather, who was a classical musician, and who taught me how to listen and understand music.
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Mortte
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Posted: January 23 2018 at 23:07 |
I am musician, I play guitar, bass and drums, but I am not been almost any musical schools, learned mostly myself. I don´t think it´s nothing to do are you musician or not when liking prog. My brother is lot better musician than I and he´s not liking prog much. And my band of this moment doesn´t play prog at all. I know also guys who like a lot prog but doesn´t play anything.
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Squonk19
Forum Senior Member Joined: April 03 2015 Location: Darlington, UK Status: Offline Points: 4706 |
Posted: January 24 2018 at 00:02 |
I wish too.... A touch of bass when I was younger, but nothing else. My teenage son plays some excellent electric/acoustic guitar and got effects pedals for his birthday. My daughter played piano for many years but that has eased since she started university.
I am so impressed by people who can play instruments. Music - whether prog or classic rock, modern jazz or classical - remains my first love (as a young John Miles once said). Sadly I am an interested by-stander - but it's a pretty good view! |
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Tapfret
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Posted: January 24 2018 at 00:27 |
I thought I was at one time. It has become quite apparent that I am far more proficient at listening to music than performing it.
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Blacksword
Prog Reviewer Joined: June 22 2004 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 16130 |
Posted: January 24 2018 at 01:40 |
I'm a mediocre drummer. I barely class myself as a musician. Can't play anything else and can't read/write music.
I started to like to like prog rock before learning to play drums. The music spoke for itself. I didn't need a musical grounding to appreciate it. I just happened to respond emotionally to it. Once I figured out the meaning of time signatures and key changes it almost spoilt the magic tbh. I almost preferred composition to be magical and mysterious rather than essentially based in maths. I suspect that doesn't make sense to anyone here |
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Mascodagama
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Posted: January 24 2018 at 02:05 |
This topic has come up before and the answer is always 'no'.
Edited by Mascodagama - January 24 2018 at 02:08 |
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Frenetic Zetetic
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Posted: January 24 2018 at 02:11 |
I'm a semi-professional bass player out of Boston. I've played and recorded with dozens of bands, but not enough to make an actual living (I'm fine with this!). I always said prog makes more sense if you can count meters, but it's not a prerequisite for enjoyment!
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Posted: January 24 2018 at 02:47 |
I don't know where I stand with this question. I've dabbled with music and music theory but I wouldn't call myself a musician.
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chopper
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Posted: January 24 2018 at 03:33 |
I'm a bass player. I think being a musician helps you to appreciate the skill of prog musicians, but it's not essential.
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SteveG
Forum Senior Member Joined: April 11 2014 Location: Kyiv In Spirit Status: Offline Points: 20503 |
Posted: January 24 2018 at 04:24 |
As a sound and recording engineer, it was essential for me to at least have a basic understanding of music in order to know tempos, song keys, the number of bars, etc., etc. But I've never thought that one had to be a musician to enjoy music. Many of my friends can't play along with spoons, but they love prog!
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Posted: January 24 2018 at 05:25 |
I don't think one has to be a musician to enjoy prog, but maybe those who enjoy prog are also those who enjoy making music.
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No, I know how to behave in the restaurant now, I don't tear at the meat with my hands. If I've become a man of the world somehow, that's not necessarily to say I'm a worldly man.
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Guldbamsen
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Posted: January 24 2018 at 05:36 |
I'm not sure I'd enjoy lobster bisque more if I knew how to make it. The same thing applies to music...but there is and has always been a small portion of musicians who vehemently believes that only musicians who've passed through a certain level of instrumental prowess are capable of enjoying complex music to its fullest (we've certainly had a few of them on here through the years). That is bs though. Enjoyment can have something to do with understanding but I feel experiencing the same thing head-on, without any muffling notions of how on earth this or that note is played or if it indeed is a waltz rhythm, can be just as meaningful.
Knowing how to speak meter and chord is however very helpful if you're about to analyse the music afterwards.
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Hercules
Prog Reviewer Joined: June 14 2007 Location: Near York UK Status: Offline Points: 7024 |
Posted: January 24 2018 at 07:15 |
I sing, but cannot play an instrument.
My stepson is a really good bassist and practises on prog pieces a lot (Hysteria, Roundabout, YYZ, a lot of Marillion and Riverside). He now listens to a lot of prog as a result.
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moshkito
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Posted: January 24 2018 at 08:09 |
Hi, Strange bananas! Is there no "other" music out there? I'm curious how one can "like" one thing and not the other ... it's all music, is my thinking.
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SteveG
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Posted: January 24 2018 at 08:50 |
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