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Points: 6336 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 14 2005 at 23:37

Originally posted by Ty1020 Ty1020 wrote:

Originally posted by el böthy el böthy wrote:

This may be a stupid question, but the only thing that keeps Opeth from being a band that I really like is the growing so, is there maybe an album where the growing is lets say, not that present?

Definitely get Damnation, there's no growling on that album at all, as The Miracle already said.

Then, I'd check out Ghost Reveries. There are some songs on that album with no growling, and some with minimal growling, and when there is growling, it fits really well. If you're still put off by it, at least listen to the songs with clean vocals, and then let the others grow on you. It's certainly an acquired taste, but once you get used to it, you'll definitely appreciate the band's music a lot more.

Ok thank you Ty, you to the Miracle...and yes, I meant growling...hehehe
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Originally posted by lynton samuel lynton samuel wrote:

Originally posted by Drew Drew wrote:

I love Opeth- I think they're prog- but Still Life is one of their LEAST proggy albums- its more straight ahead METAL


proggy or not, i think it's their best album.

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Originally posted by Gentle Ronnie Gentle Ronnie wrote:

[CoB are neither prog, nor death metal. They suck too.

Agreed on all accounts.

 

And Ghost Reveries is Opeth's worst release easily.

The first 2 are worse.
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Its a good job I can't hear any Dream Theatre in Opeths music, as I would have to take all my Opeth cd's, take them outside and destroy them and then fumigate the house
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Originally posted by Pafnutij Pafnutij wrote:

Originally posted by Gentle Ronnie Gentle Ronnie wrote:

[CoB are neither prog, nor death metal. They suck too.

Agreed on all accounts.

 

And Ghost Reveries is Opeth's worst release easily.

The first 2 are worse.

Morningrise is their best album, and Orchid is better than half of their works. Opinions...
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Tough call to rate Orchid as I have only just bought it have yet to listen...but of the others I would have to rate BWP, SL and GR near the top closely followed by Del., then MAYH and MR. I have no time for Damnation as it is an utter yawnfest.

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Originally posted by luke luke wrote:

I consider Opeth Progressive Death Metal, which of course would be a kind of prog. Another death metal band that has prog elements is Children of Bodom, who are known as "progressive melodic death metal" however the main prog stuff they have is the keyboard/guitar solos.

On the subject of prog metal bands, anyone heard into Internity? They have a number of different styles, but they have some prog in them!

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Where's death prog metal i CoB? They are heavy metal with that black metla voice, nothing else. If you listen to them they're much more Iron Maiden or Judas Priest than Morbid Angel or any other death metal band.

Into Eternity are really great, I love the technic death metal bands like Coprofago, Necrophagist, Into Eternity, Illogicist, or Quo Vadis. Nowdays I'm much more in extreme metal than in prog rock :(

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Opeth are a prog-metal/prog-death metal band its so obvious, they where it on their sleeves, and I must admit Children of Bodom are in that league to.
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This forum started with a very polite question, but blood started run because the prog metal die-hards seem to be totally closed to any debate about their musical preferences.

I'm not a prog metal fan, but reading positive reviews about Opeth led me to hear the album that reviewers think is their best: Blackwater Park. Well, after carefully listening to this piece, in different moments and moods, I must say: If this is the best Opeth, they really SUCK! Both metal and the most quiet passages are uninspired and boring to death.

I'm sorry, but I have the right of disagree the "specialists". Now, you're allowed to beat me and criticize my ignorance and bad English.  
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Nah, BWP is hardly their best, but if you find their music boring, you're better off listening to Nile, SYL, DEP and Behemoth.
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Originally posted by moodyxadi moodyxadi wrote:

This forum started with a very polite question, but blood started run because the prog metal die-hards seem to be totally closed to any debate about their musical preferences.

I'm not a prog metal fan, but reading positive reviews about Opeth led me to hear the album that reviewers think is their best: Blackwater Park. Well, after carefully listening to this piece, in different moments and moods, I must say: If this is the best Opeth, they really SUCK! Both metal and the most quiet passages are uninspired and boring to death.

I'm sorry, but I have the right of disagree the "specialists". Now, you're allowed to beat me and criticize my ignorance and bad English.  

We could always side up and have a fistfight to to settle thisWinkOuch   lets meet out back.  JUST KIDDING!!
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Originally posted by moodyxadi moodyxadi wrote:

This forum started with a very polite question, but blood started run because the prog metal die-hards seem to be totally closed to any debate about their musical preferences.

I'm not a prog metal fan, but reading positive reviews about Opeth led me to hear the album that reviewers think is their best: Blackwater Park. Well, after carefully listening to this piece, in different moments and moods, I must say: If this is the best Opeth, they really SUCK! Both metal and the most quiet passages are uninspired and boring to death.

I'm sorry, but I have the right of disagree the "specialists". Now, you're allowed to beat me and criticize my ignorance and bad English.  



Your entitled to your opinions on their music, but you not liking them doesn't make them any less Prog.
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Originally posted by Space Dimentia Space Dimentia wrote:

Opeth are a prog-metal/prog-death metal band its so obvious, they where it on their sleeves, and I must admit Children of Bodom are in that league to.

What the hell is progressive about COB? They're openly a very simplistic band. The fact that some people consider them prog is even more absurd based on the fact that they've gotten progressively less complex with each of their releases. They started out as a decent neo-classical metal band, and they've developed into some sort of pop/industrial/hardcore abomination that should in no way be associated with progressive music at all.
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