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Ulver is not a Progressive Metal band.  Even if their sound is varied is does not warrant them the Prog title.  Death Metal or Scandinavian fits their bill for categorization's sake.  Not to say I don't like Ulver, in fact I really like Bergtatt.

If Ulver is prog or not falls into the evergoing discussion of wat prog in its essense is, is it a form of music defined by the pionering bands of the seventies, or is a artist prog if the mentalety of the performer is to always seek new ekspressions with the help of new musical tecnology and new ways to perform on their instruments. But at the same time keeping within the bounderys of  wat you can identefy as rock, jazz, metal, folk  

It's definitely true that they're progressive in that they've had an extremely diverse career, but the question is... should their music really be viewed as "progressive rock"?  I'd say that Bergtatt narrowly slides into the prog-metal category, while their more recent works like Perdition City and Blood Inside could probably fit in nicely under post-rock (or maybe electronic prog).  Great band, but I'm a little uncertain as to whether I'd include them on the site.

Ulver has a pretty undeniable spot on prog-archives, methinks, and most
of the arguments here seem to have a pretty good handle on the reasons
why.

Even if none of the other albums could be considered prog (which they
are), Blood Inside is such a daring evolution into aural layering and
composition that it would make up for three band's entire non-prog
discographies.

Thankfully, Ulver hasn't sat still EVER during their 13 year career. So that's
not a worry. Duh.

edit: as for a soundtrack piece of theirs for folks to check out, my favorite
from the three STs I've heard of theirs is Wheel of Conclusion from Svidd
Neger. Lycantropen Themes is a bit repetitive, although still quite
interesting and rewarding, and their contributions to the Uno soundtrack
are a bit half-assed (since Blood Inside was taking up a huge amount of
their time, presumably), but Svidd Neger is a dynamic, versatile
conceptual work that stands alone as brilliantly as it must have matched
the film it was for.

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King of Loss wrote: How about no? They might be better off than some of the Black Metal I've heard in my small lifetime  But they can NOT QUALIFY AS PROGRESSIVE! If this goes onto Progarchives, I'm going to Maani!!!!!

Dude they are now not black metal, they are experimenta/electronic and yes they are prog, just listen to Perdition City or Blood Inside.

BTW: this is probably 8-10 thread about adding Ulver since I`m here and I`m here only for a month! If you guys like them so much go ahead and add them.

KoL - your`e against adding Ulver but you have nothing against Borknagar?
 

Another note...this was written in their Metamorphosis ep:

"Note:  Ulver is obviously not a black metal band and does not wish to be stigmatized as such.  We acknowledge the relation of part I & III of the Trilogie ("Bergtatt" & "Nattens Madrigal") to this culture, but stress that these endeavours were written as stepping stones rather than conclusions.  We are proud of our former instincts, but wish to liken our association with said genre to that of the snake with Eve.  An incentive to further frolic only.

If this discourages you in any way, please have the courtesy to refrain from voicing superficial remarks regarding our music and/or personae.  We are as unknown to you as we always were."

However, I think Ulver are not that bad, but not Progressive. Fair enough? Remember I'm nice enough to recognize Coheed and Cambria as Prog (After a long debate too). WE could definitely do that here too!

Ulver progressive? YES...Listen to any of thier 12 releases and tell me they are not progressive.  Ulver can't be put into one genre of music, which I think makes them progressive.  You don't have to like black metal to even like Ulver..just don't listen to their 1st or 3rd releases.  If you like music, I think there will be a high chance that you will like Ulver.

haha arcturus are as black metal as ulver.  ever heard aspera hiems symphonia?

Open your eyes, Nicholas!!!

dream theater arn't progressive









at all.


Edited by Pseud0

arcturus are in the archives.

also, queen are in the archives

stop acting like an ignoramus

btw, they arn't a black metal band.  They have only had 2 black metal albums.

nattens madrigal (the madrigal of the night) was in 1996.


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