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Poll Question: Which of these albums do you enjoy the most?
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    Posted: February 23 2018 at 11:20
Which of these debut albums do you enjoy the most?

Some songs I like (I would rather do two embeds per band, but lots of embeds are irritating and problematic for some).







Edited by Logan - February 23 2018 at 11:22
"The very powerful and the very stupid have one thing in common. They don’t alter their views to fit the facts. They alter the facts to fit the views" (Doctor Who - The Face of Evil, Jan 22, 1977).
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Cristi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 23 2018 at 11:27
Yes's debut out of these three. In fact it's one of my favorites from Yes. 

Genesis' debut is ok, I love Gabriel's singing on it. 

I haven't listened to VDGG's debut in quite some time. When I'm in the mood for them, I just play H to He... 
I will give it a listen (to the debut album that is) soon. 


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Aerosol is fantastic.

Yes is great fun.

Revelation bores me.
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love the Yes debut
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Yes.
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Yes

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Any of them arenīt bad album, but Yes sounded the most itself already in itīs first album. Also of course thinking itīs the best of those three.
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Originally posted by Mortte Mortte wrote:

Any of them arenīt bad album, but Yes sounded the most itself already in itīs first album. Also of course thinking itīs the best of those three.


To me VdGG sounded like itself on that album about as much as Yes did on its debut. Genesis, on the other hand, had a less mature sound. I think that both Yes and VdGG started strong out of the gates, whereas the Genesis album feels like a prequel band. One may claim that the "Yes" album sounds more like the classic Yes that many Prog fans laud than "The Aerosol Grey Machine" sounds like the classic era of VdGG that many Prog fans laud, but I hear a follow-through with those albums leading into subsequent ones, whereas Genesis had a more significant change.

Like in "Octopus" you can hear the later "out-there" VdGG (has its excesses, and I don't altogether like it, but it certainly is one of the most progressive tracks off any of these three albums):



And in other tracks you can hear VdGG's softer side.

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Some stats for fun:

In terms of the ratings at ProgArchives:

"Aerosol..." has a 3.26 with 569 ratings
"From Genesis..." has 2.58 with 1047 ratings
"Yes" has 3.24 and 1197 ratings

At rateyourmusic:

Aerosol has a 3.34 with 1,180 ratings
From Genesis has a 2.90 with 2,239 ratings
Yes has a 3.40 with 2,647 ratings


Edited by Logan - February 23 2018 at 12:49
"The very powerful and the very stupid have one thing in common. They don’t alter their views to fit the facts. They alter the facts to fit the views" (Doctor Who - The Face of Evil, Jan 22, 1977).
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote The.Crimson.King Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 23 2018 at 13:43
Not even close...I love Aerosol Grey Machine Wink
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First for Genesis.
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None of them.


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I love "The Aerosol Grey Machine". it has a lot of strong tracks (most notably "Octopus", "Necromancer", "Aquarians", "Running Back" and "Into a Game", but "Orthentian St." ain't bad either. and the title track is a nice silly little ditty). I can only recommend: "Buy an Aerosol Grey Machine for your own home - today"


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Originally posted by Hercules Hercules wrote:

None of them.



really? that's harsh :))

dare I ask what you find so appalling about them? 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Squonk19 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 23 2018 at 17:24
The Yes debut is the strongest by far - although heard the Genesis debut last week after a gap of some time and I actually rather liked it for its pastoral quaintness and tail-end of the psychedelic era feel. I love 'The Conqueror' - but can't explain why!

Edited by Squonk19 - February 23 2018 at 17:25
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote The.Crimson.King Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 23 2018 at 18:41
You're walking along the road one day up comes a man dressed all in gray
He blows a little aerosol in your face and you find your minds' all over the place
Just one breath and it's instant death it's the aerosol grey machine...

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Here come the supernatural anesthetist
If he wants you to snuff it all he has to do is puff it...

Hmmm...are both PG and PH singing about the same guy?  LOL
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Squonk19 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 23 2018 at 18:49
Originally posted by The.Crimson.King The.Crimson.King wrote:

You're walking along the road one day up comes a man dressed all in gray
He blows a little aerosol in your face and you find your minds' all over the place
Just one breath and it's instant death it's the aerosol grey machine...

vs

Here come the supernatural anesthetist
If he wants you to snuff it all he has to do is puff it...

Hmmm...are both PG and PH singing about the same guy?  LOL

Very interesting! You could be right. Do you think young Gabriel might have been influenced there?
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I suppose Yes,,,,but I don't play any of them anymore.
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