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DeadSouls
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Topic: A King Crimson song vs a VDGG song Posted: March 18 2018 at 12:49 |
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Lewian
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Posted: March 05 2018 at 14:14 |
I really love VDGG but if I had to rank all VDGG songs, not many would be behind Refugees, seriously. Never got warm with that song. I Talk to the Wind is beautiful and wins easily.
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Posted: March 05 2018 at 13:21 |
dr wu23 wrote:
Mortte....you got one right...... ;)
I Talk To The Wind...... if I live to be 70 (hope I make it 3 more years ....) I'll never understand what people see in Hammill's vocals...he can't sing his way out of a wet paper bag. | I understand the fight one's way out of paper bag idiom, but how would one sing one's way out of a paper bag, wet or not? I guess you'd need one helluva set of pipes, and I think if it were possible, Hammill would have better luck at screaming that bag open than most other singers. The dude's sometimes shrill voice could shatter eardrums (well, at least with some amplification). Would love it if you'd video yourself with a wet paper bag over your head while you sing Refugees. Then we can bow down before your mastery as the most powerful singer cum wet paper bag escape artist. ;) As for me, I couldn't sing my way out of a large champagne glass (tried to shatter glass, but never hit the right frequency). I can understand someone not liking Hammill's vocals, but to claim that he is an incompetent/ unskilled singer when compared to other Prog singers is I think unfair to him. He has considerable range and dynamics and vocal control even if he chooses to sound like he loses control sometimes (part of the theatrics). I like a unique voice, and I think he has that. It resonates with me, but that doesn't mean that it should with others (sometimes I dislike his apparent "histrionics", and I can understand some not liking his light-opera rather cabaret-ish qualities). I do think he'd make a better Phantom of the Opera than, say, Geddy Lee or various growlers in Extreme Prog Metal. As for my choice, really like both, but I went with Refugees. I find it very beautiful -- love the whole album it's off.
Edited by Logan - March 05 2018 at 13:22
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Posted: March 05 2018 at 09:38 |
Although I generally prefer Van der Graaf Generator much more than King Crimson, for this pair of songs, I vote for I Talk to the Wind.
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Posted: March 05 2018 at 08:11 |
King Crimson for sure.
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Posted: March 04 2018 at 23:12 |
dr wu23 wrote:
Mortte....you got one right...... ;)
I Talk To The Wind...... if I live to be 70 (hope I make it 3 more years ....) I'll never understand what people see in Hammill's vocals...he can't sing his way out of a wet paper bag. |
Got no rights or wrongs, just a taste of music of my own. Not have to lick anybody and really don´t want to be a part of any "Mannish boys" group. And Hammill is really great vocalists, I talk to the wind is just better song than Refugees although it´s also really beautiful.
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Posted: March 04 2018 at 21:22 |
Refugees, easily.
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Posted: March 04 2018 at 20:30 |
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Posted: March 04 2018 at 19:30 |
AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:
The Dark Elf wrote:
ELP. The only way I would choose VdGG is if the vocal track was deleted in studio. Or maybe the microphone cord got cut by an engineer whose ears were bleeding. |
ELP was an option in the other poll. Not this one. |
Then whoever it is that is not VdGG. It doesn't really matter.
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Posted: March 04 2018 at 17:21 |
The Dark Elf wrote:
ELP. The only way I would choose VdGG is if the vocal track was deleted in studio. Or maybe the microphone cord got cut by an engineer whose ears were bleeding. |
ELP was an option in the other poll. Not this one.
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Posted: March 04 2018 at 17:14 |
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Posted: March 04 2018 at 17:06 |
ELP. The only way I would choose VdGG is if the vocal track was deleted in studio. Or maybe the microphone cord got cut by an engineer whose ears were bleeding.
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Posted: March 04 2018 at 15:34 |
Hard, but I go with Crimso on this one.
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Posted: March 04 2018 at 14:52 |
I Talk to the Wind is my favorite track of ITCotCK.
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Posted: March 04 2018 at 12:55 |
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dr wu23
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Posted: March 04 2018 at 12:35 |
Mortte....you got one right...... ;)
I Talk To The Wind...... if I live to be 70 (hope I make it 3 more years ....) I'll never understand what people see in Hammill's vocals...he can't sing his way out of a wet paper bag.
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Mortte
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Posted: March 04 2018 at 12:15 |
"I Talk to the Windddd"
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Barbu
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Posted: March 04 2018 at 12:12 |
Refugees
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Larkstongue41
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Posted: March 04 2018 at 11:48 |
Ahhhh Refugees.... so beautiful. I had nearly forgotten about that one, thanks for reminding me! Both nice ballads but no contest, really. I Talk to the Wind is lovely but I much prefer the other ballads KC produced like Cadence and Cascade and Exiles.
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