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    Posted: April 27 2018 at 04:39
No big deal, we're all getting old.
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Originally posted by JD JD wrote:

I'm but a humble man 
or so you boast
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Evolver Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 30 2018 at 13:05
Originally posted by JD JD wrote:

I certainly can't answer to their lives as I'm but a humble man who lives a humble life.

I can tell you this, I have met and spoken at length with Carl twice in my lifetime, once during the soundcheck prior to the first ever concert Asia did in London Ont. and then several years later at a drum clinic he put on in the Toronto area. Both times he was every bit the gentleman you would expect by looking at him. Courteous, engaging and interested in my opinions. I have no direct comparison for Bill or Phil. I'm glad he still puts on quality shows for fans around the world. I do wish he would do another original project, but it seems unlikely at this time.
 
I spoke to Bill for a bit after an ABWH show.  He was very nice and personable.  He had nothing bad to say about any of the music he performed over the years (I mentioned Yes, KC, Genesis, UK, and a few others).  It may have loosened him up that I asked him to sign an Earthworks cover.
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^  Maybe he doesn't trust new material to compare in quality ? He could test new things under an unknown band name and "officialize" if it works... There are ways to add new repertoire without risking too much... but maybe he's just so happy playing on ! For sure concerts with his current band look very good, even if it's well-known stuff
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote JD Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 29 2018 at 14:48
I certainly can't answer to their lives as I'm but a humble man who lives a humble life.

I can tell you this, I have met and spoken at length with Carl twice in my lifetime, once during the soundcheck prior to the first ever concert Asia did in London Ont. and then several years later at a drum clinic he put on in the Toronto area. Both times he was every bit the gentleman you would expect by looking at him. Courteous, engaging and interested in my opinions. I have no direct comparison for Bill or Phil. I'm glad he still puts on quality shows for fans around the world. I do wish he would do another original project, but it seems unlikely at this time.
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I just feel bad for him having to deal with his condition.

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Originally posted by JD JD wrote:

This guy !
 
Originally posted by JD JD wrote:

But these guys are ok too !

Great photos...A first line witness of Great Times you are !!

Do you also mean, not only in their prime, but all their lives throughout ?...

Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

I'm not sure why he can not say something nice about the music he did in his life, and has completely left it to waste. It's like he was not a part of Fragile, or Close to the Edge, or anything that KC did ... like his own sound and drumming was not existent ... and I simply do not see that at all ... 

Let's not forget family challenges: his kids made no name in the showbiz, so what if he turns out to be the only admired semi-god, who can enjoy fun in famous bands, in the family ? It creates a sense of deep unfairness, so maybe better for him to get rid of all those magic glorious showbiz things and focus on getting along with his family ?...
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I see zero problems with this.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote moshkito Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 29 2018 at 08:08
Originally posted by The.Crimson.King The.Crimson.King wrote:

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After reading Bruford's autobiography I had the impression that he didn't give up primarily for his lower back issues...more for the fact that he became so bitter and disillusioned with the industry and the stress of leading his own bands.  It's a strange book...the first half is exciting and fun, the second half hard to read as it's just plain sad Ouch

I had a hard time with it as well, and I'm not sure why he can not say something nice about the music he did in his life, and has completely left it to waste. It's like he was not a part of Fragile, or Close to the Edge, or anything that KC did ... like his own sound and drumming was not existent ... and I simply do not see that at all ... 

I kept thinking that someone that could help him come off more positive would be nice to make the book more interesting and better. But there are some bits that are crazy ... like the small video where he shows you the "same thing", but on two different places, and they sound so different that you never realized that it helped a song ... and it was exactly the same thing on two places. I think he was saying that too much drumming is just cheating, and not about the music itself, and on this part I would agree with him.
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But these guys are ok too !




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This guy !




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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote jayem Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 28 2018 at 14:16
Between Collins, Bruford and Palmer: who promotes the best life as a pop/prog musician ?

(Knowing that C.P. is also on duty as a bouncer , as we can see here )
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote BaldJean Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 28 2018 at 14:06
just think of poor and brave sax player Barbara Thompson who suffers from Parkinson's disease. she has to be strapped into a chair to prevent her from falling out of it, and still she plays on




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Hi,

I'm not sure that Christian Vander will stop playing before he breaks one more bass drum petal or gets the bass drum flying off the floor again ... !!! 
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Originally posted by sidc58 sidc58 wrote:

Carl Palmer did not compose "Toccata". It is by Ginastera.


Ok, let's talk Carl for a moment. He just turned 68 and he is in incredible shape. He tours more than any other Prog Dinosaur and is still a solid player. Granted he doesn't have the speed he had in the 70's (who does?) but he plays with guys half his age and never falls behind.

Do you think one type of musician (Keys, Drums, Bass etc.) ages harder than another or is it purely genetics or lifestyle?

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^ I just saw Steve a few weeks ago, and indeed it was wonderful. Specially the second set, pure Genesis magic. I only wish he had played the whole Shadow of the Hierophant and Cinema Show.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote AreYouHuman Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 27 2018 at 19:38
Let’s not forget his old bandmate Steve Hackett, who turned 67 last year and is still recording and touring, and still hale and hearty.  His concert in my area last year was the concert of the year.  Okay, it was the only one I attended, but still…


I couldn’t help comparing him to a neighbor of mine who’s the same age and ridden with health issues, largely due a lifelong smoking habit.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote verslibre Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 27 2018 at 14:39
Generation X has been spoiled by many great drummers: Bruford, Copeland, Peart, Chambers, White, Harrison, etc. But we still got Portnoy! (;


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Indeed he do!
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Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Bruford always sounded bitter to me, regardless of the era. But a great drummer hands down.

I think he's just cynical, to be honest. Comes off kind of elitist, but the dude can play a beat or two.

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