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Bruford always sounded bitter to me, regardless of the era. But a great drummer hands down.
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Originally posted by rogerthat rogerthat wrote:

Neil Peart and Bruford also threw in the towel. It's hardest for the drummers. That said, Collins has probably also contracted big band itis and just got washed up. McLaughlin was 70 when I saw him and he was better than ever. Came over earlier this year but sadly on a weekday and had to give it a miss but I am sure he was brilliant this time too.

After reading Bruford's autobiography I had the impression that he didn't give up primarily for his lower back issues...more for the fact that he became so bitter and disillusioned with the industry and the stress of leading his own bands.  It's a strange book...the first half is exciting and fun, the second half hard to read as it's just plain sad Ouch
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Neil Peart and Bruford also threw in the towel. It's hardest for the drummers. That said, Collins has probably also contracted big band itis and just got washed up. McLaughlin was 70 when I saw him and he was better than ever. Came over earlier this year but sadly on a weekday and had to give it a miss but I am sure he was brilliant this time too.
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Originally posted by Progosopher Progosopher wrote:


My question is how did he sound? How was the music? I don't care how old he is or what he looks like. He appears fragile and has clearly had a rough time of it. I saw Ravi Shankar, B.B. King and Andres Segovia when they were well into their 80s and they gave excellent performances. What each one had lost in terms of fire they gained in soul. Granted, there were no laser light shows or anything like that, but that just brings me back to my original question - how did it all sound? We all age and some of us get beat up in the process. The heart of the artist moves on and incorporates the changes.


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Originally posted by Squonk19 Squonk19 wrote:

"....You STAND there with your fixed expression..."

I was thinking the same exact thing. He looks like the old man character that Peter Gabriel used to do during the Musical Box. 
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Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Originally posted by lazland lazland wrote:

Phil Collins ruined old age.....


yeah man.... after seeing those pics yesterday I picked up an extra carton of Winstons and 2 extra bottles of Jack...  and one nasty ass grease laden cheese steak.  That voodoo priestess told me that I didn't have long left on this earth.. yet I haven't been able to kill myself yet... and more than death I fear looking like Phil Collins, EVH.. or simply pissing and drooling on myself while the nursing home crew is out back smoking dope...

f**k old age...
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Cristian Vander still strong and on fire at 70 years of age.  Most importantly, creative juices have not dried up..


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEJjValFQq4

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Originally posted by Tom Ozric Tom Ozric wrote:

How old is Phil ?
67 ???
Nik Turner is pushing 80 and still bouncing around...........
f**k, Ozzy is doing fine (relatively).
Poor Phil. Gosh, don’t we all think we’re invincible in our youth....?

I can't believe he can still stand (somewhat) upright!
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no sh*t...  what he did compose is the middle drum section..
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Carl Palmer did not compose "Toccata". It is by Ginastera.


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Originally posted by lazland lazland wrote:

Phil Collins ruined old age.....

yeah man.... after seeing those pics yesterday I picked up an extra carton of Winstons and 2 extra bottles of Jack...  and one nasty ass grease laden cheese steak.  That voodoo priestess told me that I didn't have long left on this earth.. yet I haven't been able to kill myself yet... and more than death I fear looking like Phil Collins, EVH.. or simply pissing and drooling on myself while the nursing home crew is out back smoking dope...

f**k old age...
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^ You're thinking of Bay Toven, the female journalist who broke the Welsh transportation scam in 2009.

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Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

Does it matter ?

Absolutely. I actually knew Beethoven. 
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My question is how did he sound? How was the music? I don't care how old he is or what he looks like. He appears fragile and has clearly had a rough time of it. I saw Ravi Shankar, B.B. King and Andres Segovia when they were well into their 80s and they gave excellent performances. What each one had lost in terms of fire they gained in soul. Granted, there were no laser light shows or anything like that, but that just brings me back to my original question - how did it all sound? We all age and some of us get beat up in the process. The heart of the artist moves on and incorporates the changes.
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Phil Collins ruined old age.....
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Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:


Hope you get betterHug

Seconded. None of us are getting any younger.

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Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

Oh, aging rockers.  Maybe they remind us of our own mortality.

I'll never forget this sad if completely unfair photo of one of my guitar gods -

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That EVH is only shocling if you know it's him (hadn't really recognized him right away), but otherwise it looks like any ageing rocker

For Collins, it's much more worrysome, though.

I gess that's what he deserves for ruining Genesis, prog and ProgArchives Evil SmilePigClown

Just kidding Phil...Embarrassed

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How old is Phil ?
67 ???
Nik Turner is pushing 80 and still bouncing around...........
f**k, Ozzy is doing fine (relatively).
Poor Phil. Gosh, don’t we all think we’re invincible in our youth....?
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^So you noticed the striking resemblance ... Wink
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