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Banks, Hackett and Rutherford with Chester Thompson.....forget the Genesis brand and just get down to a few weeks of jamming to produce a few soundscapes a la the Lamb side 2.  
I like to feel the suspense when you're certain you know I am there.....
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All I can say is that I moved on from them a long time ago.  Their good stuff will always be with me but there is plenty of great new artists out there...
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With Steve Hackett doing his Genesis Revisited material with his superb live band who needs a Genesis reunion.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote ForestFriend Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 02 2018 at 14:33
I agree - Steve seems to be the only one really interested in continuing in the vein of 70s Genesis and playing the old songs. Why bother with the other guys when he's got a great crew that's passionate about it?
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My three-word review of Calling All Stations: drab and dismal. 
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I would love it if 80s-90s genesis came back. Probably more than if they tried to a Hackett style revisit of Genesis. They'd have to do it good though. I love We Can't Dance. They just kept getting better and then Collins left. Then they had a total lackluster album with Calling All Stations, in desperate need of some Phil and some confidence that their sound wasn't "dated" and they needed to be more 90s. But the spark may have died somewhere in that decade. Look at Phil's solo career too.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Frenetic Zetetic Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 03 2018 at 18:12
Cry

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There is always one....
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^ No....it's....'there can be only one'...

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Originally posted by Luxis Luxis wrote:

 > NO GABRIEL, NO GENESIS.
Right, and that's why they lumbered on for another 23 years or so, achieving their greatest fame and success as a happenstance by product.
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Originally posted by Rednight Rednight wrote:

Originally posted by Luxis Luxis wrote:

 > NO GABRIEL, NO GENESIS.
Right, and that's why they lumbered on for another 23 years or so, achieving their greatest fame and success as a happenstance by product.

Gotta love the absolutists, lol. 

I love Gabriel-era Genesis best, but you're naive if you can't realize they had the majority of their success during their 80's pop rock period.

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Yes. and since this is a prog rock site and not a pop fan boy site that point is irrelevant....we ain't interested in genesis after 1977....
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Originally posted by M27Barney M27Barney wrote:

Yes. and since this is a prog rock site and not a pop fan boy site that point is irrelevant....we ain't interested in genesis after 1977....


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Originally posted by M27Barney M27Barney wrote:

Yes. and since this is a prog rock site and not a pop fan boy site that point is irrelevant....we ain't interested in genesis after 1977....

Speak for yourself here, sir.

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Originally posted by FXM FXM wrote:

With Steve Hackett doing his Genesis Revisited material with his superb live band who needs a Genesis reunion.

Yeah, you're probably right but there's always the appeal and the romance of getting the original or the iconic band (whichever band that is) back together again, while it's still possible. 

Journey is a great example. The public response to them getting back together in that early 80s configuration would be immense. Of course, I'd prefer the earlier Rolie/Dunbar version myself Big smile


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Originally posted by ReactioninG ReactioninG wrote:

I would love it if 80s-90s genesis came back. Probably more than if they tried to a Hackett style revisit of Genesis. They'd have to do it good though. I love We Can't Dance. They just kept getting better and then Collins left. Then they had a total lackluster album with Calling All Stations, in desperate need of some Phil and some confidence that their sound wasn't "dated" and they needed to be more 90s. But the spark may have died somewhere in that decade. Look at Phil's solo career too.

I got into Genesis with Abacab and I love that album. I love the self titled album after that and even some of the songs on Invisible Touch but by the time of We Can't Dance, I was done. I can't abide that album but at least it's light years better than the schmaltz Phil was putting out solo. Ugh!

Over the past few years I have fully discovered the earlier catalog of the band. Just amazing stuff. Is one "better" than the other? For me, the poppier 80s stuff can't touch the prog stuff of the 70s. It's indisputable that Genesis was a more successful band in the 80s but I can't say they got better. They got different, for sure, but better? Not for me.


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Originally posted by Jeffro Jeffro wrote:

Originally posted by FXM FXM wrote:

With Steve Hackett doing his Genesis Revisited material with his superb live band who needs a Genesis reunion.

Yeah, you're probably right but there's always the appeal and the romance of getting the original or the iconic band (whichever band that is) back together again, while it's still possible. 

Journey is a great example. The public response to them getting back together in that early 80s configuration would be immense. Of course, I'd prefer the earlier Rolie/Dunbar version myself Big smile




I think Hackett is superb, but I am finding Sylvan's vocals on the Genesis tracks, especially live, rather grating. Annoying, in fact.

That said, the musicianship is excellent.

I have no desire to see a Gabriel era reunion, as much as I adore this period. The man is simply too old to be on stage playing a Puerto Rican punk, an album, and attitude, recorded 43 years ago. It would look damned silly, if you ask me. The music was of a period, and should be left there.
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Originally posted by M27Barney M27Barney wrote:

Yes. and since this is a prog rock site and not a pop fan boy site that point is irrelevant....we, disdainful prog snobs, ain't interested in genesis after 1977....
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Originally posted by Frenetic Zetetic Frenetic Zetetic wrote:

Originally posted by Rednight Rednight wrote:

Originally posted by Luxis Luxis wrote:

 > NO GABRIEL, NO GENESIS.
Right, and that's why they lumbered on for another 23 years or so, achieving their greatest fame and success as a happenstance by product.


Gotta love the absolutists, lol. 

I love Gabriel-era Genesis best, but you're naive if you can't realize they had the majority of their success during their 80's pop rock period.
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Originally posted by lazland lazland wrote:

Originally posted by M27Barney M27Barney wrote:

Yes. and since this is a prog rock site and not a pop fan boy site that point is irrelevant....we ain't interested in genesis after 1977....


I am

me too although the ratio of good tracks to bad tracks per album did start to go the wrong way . I love Keep It Dark and play that more than any other Genesis track and not ashamed to admit it...anyone else with me? Embarrassed
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