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BillieJane
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Hello! My name is Kimberley Anderson and I’m a PhD student in Theology and the Arts at the University of St Andrews. My thesis explores how certain forms of progressive rock might be connected to spiritual or religious experience. To make my project as accurate as possible, I am gathering first-hand accounts of how listeners experience this music, and I would be delighted to hear from you if you have anything to say about this combination of ideas. This month I am running a survey that is open to people of all backgrounds, beliefs and persuasions, as long as they are over 18 years of age and interested in progressive rock. My definition of progressive rock is very flexible, so please do not be put off if you only have experience with a few bands which fit loosely into this category. It starts with some quick, general questions about how you perceive and experience prog rock, and moves on to ask participants to describe, where possible, specific kinds of experience related to progressive rock and spirituality. It can be completed online via the link below and, all in all, should only take 15-20 minutes of your time. Your answers will be treated confidentially, but there is also the option to leave your email address in case you are willing to keep in touch and perhaps answer any more questions (this would be extremely helpful!).
PhD Researcher: Kimberley Jane Anderson, University of St Andrews, [email protected] Supervisor: Dr Gavin Hopps, University of St Andrews, [email protected] standrewseu.qualtrics.com/jfe/form/SV_cCuaeyS5pbWv7aB
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Hercules
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Hi Kimberley,
I wish you luck - I was a post-doctoral researcher in Astrophysics at St Andrews in the late 70s. Wonderful place. |
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M27Barney
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H'm. What experimental evidence will you produce other than purely subjective anecdotal non-evidence? Some prog makes me cry or makes the hairs on my neck rise. None of it ever gives me an erection. However, every other sapiens who listens to prog will have differing experiences. Good luck with trying to herd those cats...
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Man With Hat
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Seeing Magma live in concert is the closest thing I've had to a religious experience in my entire life.
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I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
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austrianprogfan
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What is the reason for the age limit? (I'm 16 2/3 years old)
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tboyd1802
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My guess is that this is an IRB (Institutional Review Board) requirement. It is much easier to get IRB approval from one's home institution to do human subject testing - surveying is considered human subject testing - on adults than it is on minors.
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twosteves
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I'm game--I always thought prog was like a religion for me---worked out well because I can practice my religion any time I want---because I'm not getting up early on Sunday and actually going to a church.
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Nogbad_The_Bad
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Filled in the survey, good luck, feel free to reconnect.
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Ian
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Manuel
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I will certainly take the survey. It is quite interesting to me the effects of a deep introspective experience while listening to music, and I’ve always thought of it as a close to the inner soul connection, enhancing my understanding of my own spiritual nature.
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BillieJane
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Yes, it’s an ethics matter. I have to enter these clauses to get approved... sorry about that, it seems nonsensical in our case. Thanks for the interest!! |
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BillieJane
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Thanks so much! Small world... been here since undergrad. It is lovely. Did you see bands there? I know a few good ones were at the union at that time!
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BillieJane
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Same here, often!
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BillieJane
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Not a lot in terms of neuroscience - not my field at all! Thankfully a lot can be said for anecdotal "empirical" evidence though, and I’ll be dipping into some phenomenology too for another chapter. You might say, the sorts of things I'm measuring are unavoidably subjective. Herding cats is a great metaphor which I might just steal... it’s clearly not the intention to distort people’s experiences into one big mush but to let the cats be cats, so to speak!
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BillieJane
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Interesting... I'm hearing so much about Magma today, giving them a first serious listen. What do you recommend as a starting point? Also heard that they are so different live from recorded.
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Done the survey! Good luck, Kimberly!
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Nogbad_The_Bad
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I'd start with Mekanik Destruktiw Kommandoh for studio & Live/Hhai for live.
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Ian
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Man With Hat
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It probably makes a difference between being there and listening to live recordings...at least I don't find them to be too much different live vs. studio (aside from arrangements and extended solos and things like that). As for albums, MDK for studio and Opera De Reims for live. Ian's suggestion of Live/Hhai is good too, but Opera... is a step above IMO.
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Mortte
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As about spirituality & music, all the music (not just prog) has always been very spiritual thing to me (I use rather word spiritual than religious, because I have never felt any religion to be that kind that fits to me, shamanism is the closest). Even simple, dirty R´N´R moves me very deeply. It´s very rare I listen music as a background to some other thing. Also I have been in many gigs that has been very spiritual experiences to me, saw Magma last autumn, other spiritual gigs have been for example P J Harvey (the best gig I ever saw), Black Sabbath, the Stooges, Wigwam, Sielun Veljet, Fishbone, the Jon Spencer Blues Explosion, Lee Ranaldo Trio, John Fogerty, Jethro Tull, Pekka Pohjola Group, Procol Harum, Dr. John, Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds and also the latest Santana gig I just saw.
As soon as I have 20 minutes time to concentrate I am going to answer your questions in that link.
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