Yes -Wakeman "mixed out" out of live performances?

Reminds me a little of how Tony Banks is nearly mixed out of the remastered and remixed Genesis releases from about 10 years ago. I was disgusted to hear how much lower his keyboards are on say, Dance on a Volcano for example, compared to the original mixes. All while the drums, guitars, and vocals were louder.

twosteves wrote: The.Crimson.King wrote: twosteves wrote: He should have stayed with that line up I think BB would have preferred that as well!  I believe in Bruford's autobio, he says he was really angry when the record exec's decided to merge both versions of Yes to cash in on Union instead of supporting a 2nd ABWH album.  It demonstrates a really disturbing fact of the music biz that musicians seem to have much less say than we think about who they play with, how much they tour, how often they release albums, etc  read the book too---much of the blame goes to Jon Anderson who kept shunning Rabin version of Yes which is why he left and did ABWH---then when record company offered more money if Rabin was in Yes Anderson when back to yes west Bruford and Howe were mad.

Perhaps he should have purchased amps that went up to 11.

think this has occurred to me ---but will have to revisit ---he is def heard loud and clear on the ABWH live material and he's very in your face on the studio album which I have been listening to lately and loving it. He should have stayed with that line up

Here's the Wakeman quotes from a BBC documentary (37:00 & ff)


Edited by oldschool71 - July 25 2018 at 14:21

My interest is not only the music but I find YesYes an interesting concept.  How many bands can say that there were two of them at the same time?  

That's cool, I hope Wakeman and the rest really did have a great time - BB never seemed to have much fun 

Edited by The.Crimson.King - July 24 2018 at 16:57

SteveG wrote: I'm not going to pretend that I'm interested in the Union album material and associated concerts, so I'm not familiar with the music that was played by Yes at that time. If Rick Wakeman's keyboard parts were mixed out, that could be for many sound reasons. For example, redundant keyboard parts by Wakeman and Kaye that the mix engineer excised as he found that the music sounded better without the redundant keyboard parts, or that Wakeman's parts were badly recorded and excised. Or that Rick himself was not happy with how he played that night and asked that his rougher parts be mixed out. It's not all cloak and dagger intrigue.

I'm not going to pretend that I'm interested in the Union album material and associated concerts, so I'm not familiar with the music that was played by Yes at that time. If Rick Wakeman's keyboard parts were mixed out, that could be for many sound reasons. For example, redundant keyboard parts by Wakeman and Kaye that the mix engineer excised as he found that the music sounded better without the redundant keyboard parts, or that Wakeman's parts were badly recorded and excised. Or that Rick himself was not happy with how he played that night and asked that his rougher parts be mixed out. It's not all cloak and dagger intrigue.

Edited by SteveG - July 24 2018 at 10:34

Oh.. you haven't seen those pics of him during the sessions?  I thought everyone has seen those.. :)