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    Posted: November 17 2018 at 00:32
Lark’s Tongues blows me away. Has done for almost 30 years. Love the overall sound / production, and every track on the album. A real tough act to follow. It’s just super hi fi to me, and extraordinary musicianship and composition. Can’t fault it.
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For the life of me, this sounds like "Larks Tongues in Aspic Part 2!"  

....perhaps RF borrowed a bit from this ancient Alpine ritual?  LOL
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Originally posted by irrelevant irrelevant wrote:

I wouldn't say this about many albums: Too dynamic. 

Still, it's pretty good. 
I know exactly what you mean! I really enjoy it but I also have to be in the mood for it.
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I wouldn't say this about many albums: Too dynamic. 

Still, it's pretty good. 
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A brilliant recording, cool that I clicked this thread as I am finishing side II right now......prolly my 2nd fav behind In the Court, but it could easily move up a notch.
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There's a direct line from Larks' to what they did on all later releases and on the current three drummers tour. All the elements are there at this point, and this hadn't been the case before. Dazzling contrasts between beautiful subtle acoustic parts and very heavy riff guitar. The loudness and mixing is, err, ...interesting..., actually bordering on the insane, but then I can appreciate what is achieved in this way. Super innovative and iconic album. All the songs have something very special, except maybe Book of Saturday, which is a fine addition but doesn't shine that much on its own. I particularly love how LTIA Part I and Exiles begin, and then the change from Talking Drum to LTIA II. The only issue I have (other than when the volume contrasts hit me in the wrong moment) is that I don't like Wetton's vocals that much on this album, he became better later.


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Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

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They're no more mainstream than Roundabout. And accessibility is subjective so I rely on the consensus of the album reviewers like Allmusic. If anyone knows what appeals to classic rockers, they do.

I don't disagree with you in the discussion going on but Allmusic are often both clueless and factually wrong (plus their ratings seem completely random half the time). I'd rather trust user based sites such as RYM & Sputnikmusic...
Yes, when it comes to prog you're right about Allmusic. LOL But for classic rock I think that you're not. Only because they are very mainstream, and their older reviews (20 years ago) were good and are still being used now! LOL 

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Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

They're no more mainstream than Roundabout. And accessibility is subjective so I rely on the consensus of the album reviewers like Allmusic. If anyone knows what appeals to classic rockers, they do.

I don't disagree with you in the discussion going on but Allmusic are often both clueless and factually wrong (plus their ratings seem completely random half the time). I'd rather trust user based sites such as RYM & Sputnikmusic...
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And there's other factors. Take Former Atlantic president Ahmet Ertegun, for example, who championed both Yes and Genesis as prime movers until they started going ballistic with dense double albums from both like Tales From Topographic Oceans and "Lamb" album. He started to get quite nervous because he felt that, in his words, "they were no longer accessible."

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I shall defer to Allmusic in that case.
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They're no more mainstream than Roundabout. And accessibility is subjective so I rely on the consensus of the album reviewers like Allmusic. If anyone knows what appeals to classic rockers, they do.
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Interesting perception. Can't say I agree but then I think "accessibility" is a bit subjective anyway.

I agree that the two tracks you mention are possibly easier for the general rock fan to get into, but I couldn't see either of these tracks being played on mainstream rock radio. Not in their album form anyway.
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Originally posted by Chaser Chaser wrote:

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I agree that its a classic. Disagree that its not accessible. I got into it almost immediately when I first played it many many moons ago
"Not accessible" means that it doesn't appeal to the general public like Yes did with Roundabout. No songs on LTiA would have been hit singles on radio, regardless of how much you or I liked them.
 
Fair enough, but I think you could make that comment about any KC album.  I don't think that LTiA is any less accessible than any other of their albums
 
KC haven't had a hit single ever, and there aren't many prog bands that have.
 
Roundabout may be an exception, but I wouldn't say that Fragile is an album that the general public would find accessible in a radio friendly sense.
 
I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just saying that I don't think that "accessibility" is a criteria that I would use to judge a prog rock album.
No as there are songs on the debut that are accessible like "Talk To The Wind" or "One More Red Nightmare" from Red that would not be that off putting to those that like classic rock. And I'm not judging, I'm only stating a fact.

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Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Originally posted by Chaser Chaser wrote:

I agree that its a classic. Disagree that its not accessible. I got into it almost immediately when I first played it many many moons ago
"Not accessible" means that it doesn't appeal to the general public like Yes did with Roundabout. No songs on LTiA would have been hit singles on radio, regardless of how much you or I liked them.
 
Fair enough, but I think you could make that comment about any KC album.  I don't think that LTiA is any less accessible than any other of their albums
 
KC haven't had a hit single ever, and there aren't many prog bands that have.
 
Roundabout may be an exception, but I wouldn't say that Fragile is an album that the general public would find accessible in a radio friendly sense.
 
I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just saying that I don't think that "accessibility" is a criteria that I would use to judge a prog rock album.
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Originally posted by Chaser Chaser wrote:

I agree that its a classic. Disagree that its not accessible. I got into it almost immediately when I first played it many many moons ago
"Not accessible" means that it doesn't appeal to the general public like Yes did with Roundabout. No songs on LTiA would have been hit singles on radio, regardless of how much you or I liked them.

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this one tyook me years to dig... I only liked Exiles at first ... and Talking Book (they're still my faves nowadays)... then one day (mid-to late 80's), it clicked onto on LTIA I & II
Easy Money only clicked in the mid-90's when I finally understood with Muir was doing)... Only Saturday never clicked (when it's supposedly the easiest of all tracks on the album), but it's mostly to do that I'm not a fan of Wetton"s voice
 
Red, I liked before LTIA, partly because of Fallen Angel and Starless... as for SaBB, I'm still not very keen on the A-side , but the flipside is terrific.
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All of KC 69-74 is essential and this one is no exception. Lark's got all everything love about this band in spades - which is why I don't understand why its the one of their seven classics I reach for the rareliest. 
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I've always thought this was one of the best prog-rock LPs ever recorded, period.  
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Great album indeed, even if I do like most of it better live. Exiles is slightly better (and harder) live (particularly on Collectable Vol 1, CD 2), and Easy Money is much better live (particularly on Collectable Vol 1, CD 1)... though the new versions are really great too. The last two tracks I do like better on their original versions, in great part because of Jamie Muir. And the first one has been the hardest for me to get into... even if the initial riff is great, there's too much jamming within the song... it's not been but until the new version with the added jazzy flute that I really was able to like it.
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Er, yeah, what everyone said!
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