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Mascodagama
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Posted: February 17 2019 at 16:33 |
Many have tried to imitate but few succeeded beyond a rather superficial level, IMO.
Among the blatant worshippers I do have some time for Armenia's Oaksenham: Undoubtedly a very high-class production. If you listen far enough in there are even a couple of GG covers, superbly done. Edited by Mascodagama - February 17 2019 at 16:35 |
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Soldato of the Pan Head Mafia. We'll make you an offer you can't listen to.
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Gerinski
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Listen to the first track of the Spanish Fusioon II
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moshkito
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I would almost say that GRYPHON is totally classically oriented ... like Richard Harvey was not a master student in music with a very high degree in it. The fact that they had a sound that came off as being from another time, is not exactly a coincidence, but if you take those instruments out, and just pen the work, it is not exactly a rock piece of music at all ... extremely classical in its design! SHADOWFAX, for my ears, also fits in the same mold as GRYPHON, although they were placed somewhere between Fusion and New Age ... two of the worst and most confusing definitions EVER.
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Frenetic Zetetic
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I always bring it up, but Gorguts Obscura is reminiscent of some classic GG sound approaches.
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"I am so prog, I listen to concept albums on shuffle." -KMac2021 |
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richardh
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Try Gryphon Red Queen To Gryphon Three. Also Shadowfax Watercourse Way.
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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moshkito
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So strange to see this ... specially when Gary Green has been on record saying that they never composed anything ... they just played, which in some pieces, it has a tendency to really look off kilter, (and many people thought so at the time, btw!!!!!!!) and make it a harder experience all around for many folks to appreciate. Buried in all this, is something that was being taught in schools and universities at the time, point/counterpoint in a lot of modern music, and the complete dismantling of melody, into something that is harder to listen to, however, in the end, it has its "own" melody, and this is tougher all around. GG, is not the only group at the time doing odd stuff ... you can go to Henry Cow and Art Bears at the time to realize that these folks were "prime students" in music, and not just your average rock'n'roller that only knew 3 chords and a (supposed!) solo over it! I, personally, think that in their first 5 albums or so, that a lot of its material was just done as is, and there was no changes, or additions that took away some of its innate beauty and design. AND, this is important, and something that nowadays, with DAW's, is not appreciated and too many bands are simply changing it in the studio (or the home!) to supposedly make it better, and all they are doing is taking out the subtlety that helped create the piece in the first place ... and this is where some bands, as is the case of DT, suffers when it's rather clear that the lyrics were added on, and not a natural part of the development of the music, that continues on, regardless of lyrics or not ... as if they didn't matter anyway! Too many "metal" bands are doing that, and it's not hard to find and tell. I would wish that we think of these things as "musical" styles. We can look at the 20th century, and find Stravinsky, Berg, Britten, Orff, Davies, Russell, and so many more ... and we do NOT think in terms of styles. So, in the end, an audience thinking that "styles" are important, in the end, they are limiting their listening content and thinking that what they like, or attuned to better, is more music than anything else is! I just don't see the "maturity" that we would have after so many years of listening to these things ... GG is not a personal favorite of mine, but I will never EVER, think that this is an incredible group of folks that were not afraid to do things musically that most of us would not consider or even try ... EVER. And then, their musicianship alone, is enough to leave one breathless ... and btw, the concert I saw their ENCORE was 20 minutes long and in that time, they all played the drums, the guitars, the keyboards, the recorders ... and sang ... so do we really want to discuss their musical abilities? And then wonder how/why they did something like that?
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Spock’s Beard have ventured into GG-like territory on many tracks ; Gibberish is one that comes to mind instantly. I gotta say that SB are one of my favourite Prog bands these days.
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Emerson Lake and Palmer - Brain Salad Surgery Cathedral - Stained Glass Stories Le Orme - Contrappunti Yezda Urfa - Sacred Baboon Those are the closest I know. Mostly just in their virtuosity, but the styles are radically different still. Not many bands decided to modern Medieval prog rockers. I'd say Island and Yezda Urfa would be closest (though the latter takes most of their inspiration from YES, but they still have moments where they sound a lot like Gentle Giant). Edited by philipemery - February 06 2019 at 10:36 |
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Early PFM is the most obvious one to me. Check out their first 2 Italian releases. Enjoy!
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I have to check out some of these, I love GG
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One of my favorite albums! I also love Island, Gnidrolog, Cardiacs! The best!!!!
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Damn, there are some killer links in this thread.
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https://rateyourmusic.com/list/terramystic/gentle_giant_and_influenced_artists/
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Hmmm.......been listening to Echolyn lately and As The World has a good deal of that vibe.
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Bands similar to Gentle Giant?
Hmmm not that many echoing the old Robin Hood troop, but Terreno Baldio came very close - perhaps too close for some reviewers: Edited by Guldbamsen - January 31 2019 at 10:35 |
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Look into Spain's prog bands from the era, you'll find a lot you can feast on.
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Yezda Urfa's album "Sacred Baboon" (recorded in '76, released in '89) is my fave GG influenced album...
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^ Good calls. I had meant to mention Yezda Urfa and Happy the Man too, but I got a phone call while composing my post
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Yezda Urfs and Happy the Man and swedish act Rituals are GGnauts
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