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Starless& Bible Black vs Animals

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Poll Question: Which Of these do you prefer?
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    Posted: August 30 2019 at 06:58
Originally posted by dr prog dr prog wrote:

Starless is crap apart from night watchman and Deceiver. The rest just filler


Well since I can't vote in this poll, I suppose I can at least give an opinion. 'Starless' is my favourite KC album after 'Court'. I agree it's a bit scattershot in terms of source material, but not in terms of quality. Also love 'Trio' even if David Cross - in both this and 'Night Watch' is leaning heavily on Vaughn Williams, e.g. 'The Lark Ascending'.

'Animals' used to be one of my favourite Floyd albums but I've grown less fond of it. Still it's a tough call between the two. I think if I could only have one, it'd be 'Starless'. 

In hindsight I think 'Animals' is where Waters' political harangues (he's like a prog Jello Biafra) started to make Floyd seem like a backing band.

Incidentally I mostly agree with Waters' politics; I just don't find it as lyrically moving as his ruminations about mortality and life in general.




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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote dr prog Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 30 2019 at 04:03
Starless is crap apart from night watchman and Deceiver. The rest just filler
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Braka1 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 30 2019 at 03:04
I'm unable to vote in any polls for some reason. I was wondering whether it was because I had to get a new account.

Originally I was just 'Braka', but at some point a few months ago I got logged out, my password didn't work, and I never received an email when going through the lost password protocol.  Hence 'Braka1'. I don't remember whether I had to go through a 'can't vote' period the first time around.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote dr wu23 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 26 2019 at 14:16
Never cared for Animals....imo a classic example of an overrated lp.
Starless for the win.

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I got into Starless' at the drop of a hat. Still can't say that about Animals. Such a let-down after the previous two.
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Not even close, animals. Seriously, how could someone in the right mind vote starless
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote cstack3 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 23 2019 at 14:18
Both are great, but I went with SBB.  It has some of the most amazing work of the KC canon...."Fracture" being my favorite.
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Originally posted by iluvmarillion iluvmarillion wrote:


Roger Waters is now worth twice as much as Dave Gilmour which shows that a good lyricist is worth more than a good guitar player.
 

Waters has been touring the world for years now.  Remember at the time of The Wall they were all close to broke.  Then again what is the difference between 100 million or 200? LOL
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woof, oink, and bahhhh
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Howard the Duck Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 23 2019 at 08:26
Definitely Starless - how could you not vote for Fracture!

Animals is one of my least favorite Floyd albums, aside from Sheep.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote irrelevant Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 23 2019 at 07:52
Animals easily.  
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote iluvmarillion Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 24 2019 at 01:23
Originally posted by wiz_d_kidd wiz_d_kidd wrote:

Originally posted by iluvmarillion iluvmarillion wrote:

Roger Waters is now worth twice as much as Dave Gilmour which shows that a good lyricist is worth more than a good guitar player.


Ringo Starr is worth more than Roger Waters which shows, by your logic, that an average drummer and mediocre songwriter is worth more than a good lyricist.

For starters, Ringo Starr is more than an average drummer and secondly, if Pete Best had kept his job with the Beatles, he'd be worth more than Dave Gilmour and Roger Waters put together today.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Dopeydoc Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 21 2019 at 15:54
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote wiz_d_kidd Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 20 2019 at 10:18
Originally posted by HackettFan HackettFan wrote:

Why not more love for Starless and Bible Black generally? For me it is the one and only KC album that captures the flavor and sense of their en mass group improvisations.




I wonder that, too. From the great improv piece "We'll Let You Know" highlighting Wetton's bass play, to the confoundingly complex cross-picking of Fripp on "Fracture", there are so wonderful musical moments. One of my all time favorite albums.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote HackettFan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 20 2019 at 09:02
Why not more love for Starless and Bible Black generally? For me it is the one and only KC album that captures the flavor and sense of their en mass group improvisations.


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Originally posted by iluvmarillion iluvmarillion wrote:

Roger Waters is now worth twice as much as Dave Gilmour which shows that a good lyricist is worth more than a good guitar player.


Ringo Starr is worth more than Roger Waters which shows, by your logic, that an average drummer and mediocre songwriter is worth more than a good lyricist.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote iluvmarillion Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 18 2019 at 23:10
Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

Originally posted by wiz_d_kidd wiz_d_kidd wrote:

Starless and Bible Black for me. Animals exhibits too much anger, tension, and frustration within the band, about the music industry, and about the world in general. It was Roger Waters belly-aching about everything.

Couldn't agree more and Waters 'complained' his way to a huge bank account.
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Roger Waters is now worth twice as much as Dave Gilmour which shows that a good lyricist is worth more than a good guitar player.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Finnforest Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 18 2019 at 11:39
Animals is my least-favorite Floyd album of the Rog era.

So, Starless on this one. 

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote dr wu23 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 18 2019 at 10:40
Originally posted by wiz_d_kidd wiz_d_kidd wrote:

Starless and Bible Black for me. Animals exhibits too much anger, tension, and frustration within the band, about the music industry, and about the world in general. It was Roger Waters belly-aching about everything.

Couldn't agree more and Waters 'complained' his way to a huge bank account.
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Two great ones but I had to go with KC.
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