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Points: 20527 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 27 2005 at 05:13
Originally posted by maidenrulez maidenrulez wrote:

Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

^ Then don't blame it on Vai.

Listen to the excerpt ... it was performed by a full orchestra + band, it's really amazing.

Nah i dont like that vai, in several of the songs is just using sample cd's and i just improvising some guitar licks over that...you dont have to be awfully clever to do that...

  1. May I kindly remind you that the topic of this thread wasn't The Ultra Zone?
  2. Please don't say that he's JUST using "sample cds" only because he mentioned that he used samples.
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Points: 3254 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 27 2005 at 05:16
Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

Originally posted by maidenrulez maidenrulez wrote:

Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

^ Then don't blame it on Vai.

Listen to the excerpt ... it was performed by a full orchestra + band, it's really amazing.

Nah i dont like that vai, in several of the songs is just using sample cd's and i just improvising some guitar licks over that...you dont have to be awfully clever to do that...

  1. May I kindly remind you that the topic of this thread wasn't The Ultra Zone?
  2. Please don't say that he's JUST using "sample cds" only because he mentioned that he used samples.

he is using them in SEVERAL songs + he is using stuff from about 20 cd's or something.



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Points: 20527 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 27 2005 at 05:26
Originally posted by maidenrulez maidenrulez wrote:

Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

Originally posted by maidenrulez maidenrulez wrote:

Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

^ Then don't blame it on Vai.

Listen to the excerpt ... it was performed by a full orchestra + band, it's really amazing.

Nah i dont like that vai, in several of the songs is just using sample cd's and i just improvising some guitar licks over that...you dont have to be awfully clever to do that...

  1. May I kindly remind you that the topic of this thread wasn't The Ultra Zone?
  2. Please don't say that he's JUST using "sample cds" only because he mentioned that he used samples.

he is using them in SEVERAL songs + he is using stuff from about 20 cd's or something.

And you wonder why he called it the "Ultra Zone"? 
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Points: 32995 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 27 2005 at 06:00

I'm listening to it now....sounds great!

And sampling CD's doesn't make something " Techno"

Paul Gilbert does do covers of prog songs though!

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Points: 126 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 27 2005 at 07:02
Originally posted by maidenrulez maidenrulez wrote:

Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

Originally posted by maidenrulez maidenrulez wrote:

I have got one Steve Vai album and that was very awfull containing a mere two songs that where listenable...The rest filled with horrible techno backing tracks where steve would improvise something and sing sume vocals that reminds me of some of them boyzone guys...That album frankly was the reason why i have not bought any steve vai records ever again. Anyway he is great live tho just as joe satriani is great live but crap on most studio releases

I wonder which album it was ...

the ULTRA zone

You really should widen your horizons, so to speak, maidenrulez.  The Ultra Zone is BRILLIANT! Yes, it's very diverse (a true melting pot of fusion, ethno, prog, blues, metal, pop... btw, that's why his music is so hard to categorize, at least for me that is), but every track on this album shines on its own.

I always wonder why most people listen to music "clothes" only? If something sounds "too different" they are all up to bash the thing. Why not to try a bit and listen closely to actual notes, how they are constructed/performed? With good music there are a LOT of goodies to discover under its "clothes".

(By "clothes" I mean "arrangements" that usually dictate the style)

And no, Vai is not AVANT in my book. The fact that he is so diverse doesn't make him avant in any way.  



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Points: 20527 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 27 2005 at 07:38

You should listen to the excerpt gullivan ... especially for Vai fans this is VERY rewarding. To hear Vai songs from Flexable to the Ultra Zone performed by a full orchestra, arranged by a real professional (van Kloet) ... A W E S O M E. My personal highlight is the piano rendition of "The God Eaters" right at the beginning of the excerpt.
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Points: 12799 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 27 2005 at 10:14
Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

You should listen to the excerpt gullivan ... especially for Vai fans this is VERY rewarding. To hear Vai songs from Flexable to the Ultra Zone performed by a full orchestra, arranged by a real professional (van Kloet) ... A W E S O M E. My personal highlight is the piano rendition of "The God Eaters" right at the beginning of the excerpt.

I read about two years ago, that Mike Keneally (who replace Vai in Zappa's band as stunt guitarist) was transcribing Vai for the grande piano - did that album ever get released?

 

And I repeat: check out Vai's guest appearance on Surinder Sandhu's Saurang Orchestra album; it's a joy to hear him working with British jazz saxophonist Andy Sheppard, in some Indo jazz fusion pieces.

http://www.resonator-records.com/surinder/records.html
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Originally posted by Dick Heath Dick Heath wrote:

I read about two years ago, that Mike Keneally (who replace Vai in Zappa's band as stunt guitarist) was transcribing Vai for the grande piano - did that album ever get released?

Yes, it is released. The info must be on Vai's site... http://www.vai.com/

 
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