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    Posted: December 17 2023 at 07:21
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

It's a long road we've been Travelling together all aboard our Magic Bus with a Caravan on tow and following the sign for Hatfield & the North on the Canterbury Scene trail (which isn't a Quantum Jump away from Jazz Rock/Fusion). Undoubtedly, there's been a whole Soft Heap of goodies to savour, but two outstanding golden Gong artists for me were  Zopp & Zyma, who arrived by special Delivery right at the end of the trail, although they were well worth waiting for.  I was left with Egg on my face though after giving Robert Wyatt's acclaimed Rock Bottom album a 2-star rating, Cos anyone with National Health specs can see it's worth more than that, especially bearing in mind Rock Bottom is right near the top of PA's Canterbury Scene chart at #2. Ouch

A-Z of Canterbury Scene Artists by Nationality

United Kingdom

Antique Seeking Nuns
Kevin Ayers
Big Hogg
The Boot Lagoon
Brainville
Caravan
Clear Frame
Delivery
Egg
The Ghoulies
Michael Giles
Gilgamesh
Gowen - Miller - Sinclair - Tomkins
John Greaves 
Nicholas Greenwood
Gringo
Hatfield & the North
Steve Hillage
Hopper - Dean - Tippett - Gallivan
Hugh Hopper
Jakko M. Jakszyk
The Kentish Spires
Khan
Magic Bus
Matching Mole
Miller & Coxhill
Phil Miller
Moom
National Health
John G. Perry
The Polite Force
Pip Pyle
Quantum Jump
Quiet Sun
Short Wave
Richard Sinclair
Soft Heap
Soft Machine
Soft Machine Legacy
Soft Works
The Wilde Flowers
Robert Wyatt
Zopp

Australia

Daevid Allen

Belgium

Cos
Pazop

France

Moving Gelatine Plates
Ocarinah
Travelling

Germany

Tortilla Flat
Zyma

Republic of Ireland

Supply Demand & Curve

Italy

Homunculus Res
Picchio dal Pozzo

Japan

De Lorians
HenryTennis
Moleslope
Mr. Sirius
Stubbs

Multi-National

Gong
Soft Mountain

The Netherlands

Pantheon
Supersister

Spain

Amoeba Split

United States

The Lodge
Manna / Mirage
Master Cylinder
The Muffins
Volare
The Winstons

Great list. However, I'd like to recommend you add The Worm Ouroboros to your list because they undoubtedly deserve to be on any list of non-English 'Canterburians' due to their two albums, which are both magnificent. Musically, their fantastic albums are as 'Cantebury' as they are musically perfect, with intricately complex yet captivating tracks.
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It's a long road we've been Travelling together all aboard our Magic Bus with a Caravan on tow and following the sign for Hatfield & the North on the Canterbury Scene trail (which isn't a Quantum Jump away from Jazz Rock/Fusion). Undoubtedly, there's been a whole Soft Heap of goodies to savour, but two outstanding golden Gong artists for me were  Zopp & Zyma, who arrived by special Delivery right at the end of the trail, although they were well worth waiting for.  I was left with Egg on my face though after giving Robert Wyatt's acclaimed Rock Bottom album a 2-star rating, Cos anyone with National Health specs can see it's worth more than that, especially bearing in mind Rock Bottom is right near the top of PA's Canterbury Scene chart at #2. Ouch

A-Z of Canterbury Scene Artists by Nationality

United Kingdom

Antique Seeking Nuns
Kevin Ayers
Big Hogg
The Boot Lagoon
Brainville
Caravan
Clear Frame
Delivery
Egg
The Ghoulies
Michael Giles
Gilgamesh
Gowen - Miller - Sinclair - Tomkins
John Greaves 
Nicholas Greenwood
Gringo
Hatfield & the North
Steve Hillage
Hopper - Dean - Tippett - Gallivan
Hugh Hopper
Jakko M. Jakszyk
The Kentish Spires
Khan
Magic Bus
Matching Mole
Miller & Coxhill
Phil Miller
Moom
National Health
John G. Perry
The Polite Force
Pip Pyle
Quantum Jump
Quiet Sun
Short Wave
Richard Sinclair
Soft Heap
Soft Machine
Soft Machine Legacy
Soft Works
The Wilde Flowers
Robert Wyatt
Zopp

Australia

Daevid Allen

Belgium

Cos
Pazop

France

Moving Gelatine Plates
Ocarinah
Travelling

Germany

Tortilla Flat
Zyma

Republic of Ireland

Supply Demand & Curve

Italy

Homunculus Res
Picchio dal Pozzo

Japan

De Lorians
HenryTennis
Moleslope
Mr. Sirius
Stubbs

Multi-National

Gong
Soft Mountain

The Netherlands

Pantheon
Supersister

Spain

Amoeba Split

United States

The Lodge
Manna / Mirage
Master Cylinder
The Muffins
Volare
The Winstons

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Not many bands can top Zopp and it's good to see they have many fans here with both of their superb albums in PA's Canterbury Scene Top 30 too. Thumbs Up
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Both Zopp lps are wonderful  ....  heard them on you tube but will be ordering them soon.
But.....imho they are not better than the classic Canterbury lps by Hatfield and Nat Health.....they are as good as in some ways but imho they don't have that same vibe that the female singers (Parson, Gaskins ,et al and Sinclair) as well as the writing Stewart et al brought to Hatfield and others.
But I 'm glad Zopp is emulating the older sounds.
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Very, very much enjoying Zopp's Dominion lp.. so impressed, i ordered the vinyl version!Clap

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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

^Nah, not better than Hatfield or Health, but Caravan maybe.

Zopp's Dominion album may be the best album in the entire dominion of Canterbury Scene music. No, not even maybe... It IS the best Canterbury Scene album I've ever heard! Star Star Star Star Star Star

Hi,

I guess that comment might be a bit over the zopp somewhere, but I agree that both albums are excellent. Wonderful listens, regardless of it being Canterbury tea or bones!

I think that is one of the most satisfying listens in some time. Very very nice! 
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Originally posted by omphaloskepsis omphaloskepsis wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

Why am I not surprised you hate Robert Wyatt - Rock Bottom and rate Zopp ahead Hatfield and National Health. Zopp is a nice album but c'mon!

At least I'm predictable. I've tried to like Robert Wyatt by listening to all of his albums again yesterday, but I'm afraid he still remains at the rock bottom of my Canterbury Scene pile, alongside Hugh Hopper. Ribbit. 🐸

Paul, have you tried playing Robert Wyatt backward, on a Thursday morning? Wink

I love the new Zopp album.  I'll compare it with my favorites from my Canterbury collection.  Get ready to rumble with tea and crumpets and Canterbury. 
Zopp are the Topps for me and the music goes nicely with tea and crumpets too.  Thumbs Up
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

Why am I not surprised you hate Robert Wyatt - Rock Bottom and rate Zopp ahead Hatfield and National Health. Zopp is a nice album but c'mon!

At least I'm predictable. I've tried to like Robert Wyatt by listening to all of his albums again yesterday, but I'm afraid he still remains at the rock bottom of my Canterbury Scene pile, alongside Hugh Hopper. Ribbit. 🐸

Paul, have you tried playing Robert Wyatt backward, on a Thursday morning? Wink

I love the new Zopp album.  I'll compare it with my favorites from my Canterbury collection.  Get ready to rumble with tea and crumpets and Canterbury. 


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Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

Why am I not surprised you hate Robert Wyatt - Rock Bottom and rate Zopp ahead Hatfield and National Health. Zopp is a nice album but c'mon!

At least I'm predictable. I've tried to like Robert Wyatt by listening to all of his albums again yesterday, but I'm afraid he still remains at the rock bottom of my Canterbury Scene pile, alongside Hugh Hopper. Ribbit. 🐸
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Prog Archives' Top 30 Canterbury Scene Albums

01. 5 stars 1971: Caravan - In the Land of Grey and Pink - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mFz0nR_h7FWnmMQ90QMaMVh7Gadk3hA8k
05. 3 stars 1974: Hatfield & the North - Hatfield & the North - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_k3DLr_YoS0ajnLFLlOvU1thTyyfg6UfW0
06. 4 stars 1970: Caravan - If I Could Do It All Over Again, I'd Do It All Over You - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LtsoUorBySZ8GsEIMLVrI2R
07. 3 stars 1978: National Health - Of Queues & Cures - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_myZQbKnm05Sy8B5o_yKKi_twz1SkhSWu8
09. 3 stars 1975: Hatfield & the North - The Rotters' Club - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_k5QfBixT2KGcYZx5VS6IBhHN1XKnQYuT4
10. 4 stars 1973: Caravan - For Girls Who Grow Plump in the Night - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nRDGZ_xGZ-OPCjQTlT_IVG7XdzoldlbGY
11. 3 stars 1971: Supersister - To the Highest Bidder - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MU5026Bj3S0
12. 3 stars 1973: Daevid Allen's Gong - Angel's Egg - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLikNHjJ_cxzCPZ-35b9RZgaAcPp5SW2ga
13. 3 stars 1972: Moving Gelatine Plates - The World of Genius Hans - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_ml5nVP3Lkkn7YlSinSadzytnnTbSb8JN4
15. 4 stars 1978: National Health - National Health - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1Lu0nRyTGpqxRgBhsQ5fjoan
19. 3 stars 1976: Picchio dal Pozzo - Picchio dal Pozzo - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InqNhh79or0
22. 5 stars 2023: Zopp - Dominion - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvqUDj1Iy54
23. 4 stars 2020: Zopp - Zopp - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQ2Lx6HDorQ
24. 3 stars 1968: Soft Machine - The Soft Machine - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1Lu2Lq_DV8ksSBDAsKQTWLQh
25. 3 stars 1970: Supersister - Present from Nancy - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SurjxwfHNu8
27. 3 stars 1973: Daevid Allen's Gong - Flying Teapot - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLikNHjJ_cxzCkdxUoZ65KgEAxUk0AuSmC
28. 3 stars 1971: Moving Gelatine Plates - Moving Gelatine Plates - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lcyR8RvLW41ztn8ou18nHE1wbkOoT8GPM
29. 3 stars 1976: Pierre Moerlen's Gong - Gazeuse! - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLikNHjJ_cxzCZijlNll9ZUqIi4A2w7bzG
30. 3 stars 2023: Amoeba Split - Quiet Euphoria
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Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

^Thanks for doing this, Paul. Very complete and informative.

The Canterbury genre is still one of my faves after 48 years of listening.

It's been a pleasure. Now seems like a good time to put together a list of my Canterbury Scene 5-star favourites, so here goes:-


5 stars 1969: Arzachel - Arzachel - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRW8bkl33yU
5 stars 1971: Caravan - In the Land of Pink and Grey - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LuvsF8fnd5IFaqvwNUGPObK
5 stars 1972: Catapilla - Changes - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Woesy-QYiEg
5 stars 1972: Nicholas Greenwood - Cold Cuts - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdWP9qeM8_0
5 stars 1987: Mr. Sirius - Barren Dream - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDfZo7wThFw
5 stars 1990: Mr. Sirius - Dirge - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZAi2zyNLdY
5 stars 1972: Pantheon - Orion - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSaaCDBYF3M
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^Thanks for doing this, Paul. Very complete and informative.

The Canterbury genre is still one of my faves after 48 years of listening.
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ZYMA      Finally, four years, 90+ artists and 300+ albums later, it's the last but not least Canterbury Scene artist, and what a great way to finish! Zyma are one of only two German Canterbury Scene bands, alongside Tortilla Flat. They may be at the end of the alphabet, but Zyma are leaders of the pack in terms of musical ability, but then again, we wouldn't expect anything less from the Germans. Danke Schoen und Guten Nacht. Thumbs Up

4 stars 1979: Zyma - Brave New World - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJbotZE5lV4


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Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

^It is a good album. And a six star rating is impressive!

Yet, is it better than Khan "Space Shanty" that we both rate highly?

At this moment in time, I'd say Zopp's Dominion album is by far the best of the 300+ Canterbury Scene albums I've listened to in total over the last four years, but that all may change in a year's time once the novelty has worn off, in the same way as The Quest no longer comes Close to the Edge of being my favourite YES album two years on. Embarrassed
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Why am I not surprised you hate Robert Wyatt - Rock Bottom and rate Zopp ahead Hatfield and National Health. Zopp is a nice album but c'mon!
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^It is a good album. And a six star rating is impressive!

Yet, is it better than Khan "Space Shanty" that we both rate highly?
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Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

^Nah, not better than Hatfield or Health, but Caravan maybe.

Zopp's Dominion album may be the best album in the entire dominion of Canterbury Scene music. No, not even maybe... It IS the best Canterbury Scene album I've ever heard! Star Star Star Star Star Star
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^Nah, not better than Hatfield or Health, but Caravan maybe.
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ZOPP      Finally, this is what I've been waiting for! In the Dominion of Canterbury Scene bands, Zopp are one of the best British bands who barely anyone has ever heard of. Zopp may be new to the Canterbury Scene, but they're better than Hatfield & the North, better than National Health, and dare I say it, better than Caravan too! Geek



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