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    Posted: May 16 2020 at 05:53
This is a thread for albums you may have really enjoyed when you first heard them, but over time and repeated listens you may have quickly grown tired of it or seen many flaws you initially didn't pickup on. Kinda the opposite of an album growing on you. Here's a few that come to mind for me

Watershed - Opeth

There's just something off about this album, perhaps the addition of two new musicians kinda shakes things up, but overall my main complaint is that the songwriting isn't up to the previous standards. Way too much "Touch and Go" or "Stop and Start" going on in the songs. You'll have a really cool riff and section suddenly abruptly interrupted by a minute of soft, somewhat ambient mellotron passages. Some songs will just completely stop and fade back in (Porcelain Heart). I liked this album a lot when I first discovered it, but repeated listens have left me feeling very cold towards it. It just sounds like all their Death Metal energy is used up, I believe the stylistic change that followed was necessary.

Larks Tongues in Aspic - King Crimson

There was a point where I really enjoyed this album, but in the past year or so, I just haven't been able to enjoy it. I can appreciate the innovative work they're doing but I feel like King Crimson works better when their songs have more structure to them (Red, Court, Discipline). I've also found that I think there's a bit too much downtime in many of the songs for my tastes.

Script For a Jesters Tear - Marillion

I loved this one so much when I first heard it that I went right out and bought a copy off discogs, but for some reason over repeated listens the album just stopped doing anything for me. I can recognize that the songs are all pretty strong and have great melodies, but I usually find my attention drifting off for some reason. I love Misplaced Childhood, but i've come to the conclusion Marillion just isn't for me. Believe me, i've really tried.

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In the Court of the Crimson King - KC
When I first heard it, I thought it was great and bought it. Now, I can't bear to listen to anything but Epitaph and the title track and I sold my copy a few years ago.
The Grand Illusion - Styx
Thought it was great at first, then I realised it was just prog by numbers (if it was ever prog at all).
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I still like listening to it a bit, but its reputation as innovative and groundbreaking doesn't hide its flaws. And I much prefer QE2, Five Miles Out and Discovery and the Lake.
Pictures at an Exhibition - ELP
I was in the crowd when this was recorded and that gives you a feeling of attachment. But the performance on the night was - shall we say - not as good as I had hoped and it was almost all down to Emerson's antics. Now, I rarely listen to it. 
(BJH Live was another album I was present at when they recorded some of it and, in contrast, that never fails to please.)
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Close to the Edge - Yes.
OK, the first side is magnificent. no argument. But the second side I used to love and now just can't be bothered with as it pales into insignificance compared to side one. It's like eating your main course at The Waterside Inn in Bray and then going for dessert at McDonalds (or The Fat Duck, which served me some of the most revolting food I've ever eaten, or in some cases, not eaten, or in one case, eaten and then thrown up. In fairness, a few courses were delicious).
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Originally posted by dougmcauliffe dougmcauliffe wrote:

Script For a Jesters Tear - Marillion

this is the most important album in my life, so that hurts a little

I can't name any examples right now, I just know that the-first-record-you-heard-from-the-artist/band usually remains your favourite; others from the same artist - not always, especially if the artist in question basically does the same album every 2-3 years
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I can't think of prog I gave up on, some hard rock, metal bands/albums definitely. 
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None. My first or second listen is always accurate as to how I like the album.
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Marillion's first three albums, after a while I could not listen to them anymore and lost total interest in the band. Same with Gray Lady down, after a few listenings, I could not bear the singer (not a very good vocalist). Echolyn is another band that got too boring, though their music is quite eclectic, but after a while all the songs follow the same pattern, so I could not enjoy the music anymore.
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I have a hard time now listening to the early Eloy albums Inside - Floating - Power and the Passion; particularly the first two I had loved to bits as a teenager.
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First ones that spring to mind are Pink Floyd's The Wall & The Final Cut, I was a bit of a Floyd fanatic when they came out but those two in particular aren't to my tastes any more.
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Genesis - Nursery Cryme & Trespass

Almost all albums grow on me somewhat but those two just get worse with time

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There are very few prog albums that I no longer enjoy in some capacity.
However these three are the exception to that rule.
And then there were three. It was the beginning of if not quite the end then certainly on my behalf a lesser interest in the band.
The Wall. An album that I was never overly fond of and now never play at all.
The Final Cut. An album I played to death when it came out and now I really dont.
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Brain Salad Surgery - i was razzle dazzled by the musicianship and dramatic pacing of the songs, but over time it just started to feel too busy and noisy. Some of those crazy synth noises just grate on me now (e.g. Toccata, KE9 3rd Impr.)
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I can't think of a single one. Most of those listed I still hold in high esteem. 
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Styx - The only album by them that I still love is "The Grand Illusion".  I used to consider them one of my favorite bands, but now I find most of their music a bit self-aggrandizing.
 
Electric Light Orchestra - I used to love the pop of "Face the Music", "A New World's Record" and so on, but now I can't stand them.  The only ELO albums I still appreciate are their first two.
 
 

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Hi,

Weird ... very strange stuff ... I may not look at a lot of music as a teenager would and "fall in love" the same minute kind of thing, but I simply can not list you an album I heard that I lost interest in. Many things years ago, did not "click" but I never lost sight of them ... things like The Third Ear Band ... but it does not mean that they are the merde of music because I had no interest in it 40 years ago, despite its music being ... not very well used ... in a movie, which kinda distorted things for me. And they have become great. 

They are all different "people" and come from different directions, and to say that they don't have it is not nice, and is simply a misinterpretation of who they are and their work.

The human spirit goes a long way to try and do something, and even if it is not your cup of tea, disliking it, is a lack of appreciation for the spirit that involves creative in us all ... you might as well tell your 3 year old child that he/she is stupid when they see a little keyboard and pound on it ... that's horrible music! 

Some of these threads are so far and away from the appreciation of the art itself, that it is scary ... for crying out loud, some composers of classical music are not my cup of tea, but I'm not going to sit here and say that I lost interest and that the music suxx ... like Mozart ... or Beethoven ... the whole idea is just sad, and here we are ... SUPPOSEDLY FOLKS THAT APPRECIATE PROGRESSIVE MUSIC ... AND ITS STEPS INTO THE UNKNOWN ... and the best we can do is talk about a band we lost interest in!

One last thing ... people are all different sizes, colors and shapes ... and so is music and all the arts ... and it is strange to me to see some of these posts ... and very sad ... here we are ... supposedly a more PROGRESSIVE" kind of listener, and we post and talk like a top ten fan.

I bet that you get this feeling, because most folks did not LISTEN to anything properly, to learn and find out what the artist was all about ... just picked a wee bit here and there ... and then wonder why they never understood or cared for the album ... 50 years later.

I might not care for much of PF any more ... heard too much of it ... but it doesn't mean I won't cry when one of my favorite drummers falls away ... will cry as much as when Rich passed away ... but none of their music has EVER sounded different 50 years later ... NONE.

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Originally posted by TCat TCat wrote:

Styx - The only album by them that I still love is "The Grand Illusion".  I used to consider them one of my favorite bands, but now I find most of their music a bit self-aggrandizing.
 
Electric Light Orchestra - I used to love the pop of "Face the Music", "A New World's Record" and so on, but now I can't stand them.  The only ELO albums I still appreciate are their first two.
 
 

Styx and Kansas were the bands that got me into prog, still adore Kansas, these days for Styx I only really ever (rarely at that) come back to Pieces of Eight and The Mission.
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Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

Hi,

Weird ...

Get Ce-Real!

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Edited by Nogbad_The_Bad - May 16 2020 at 12:15
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Was never a huge Styx fan but I did have a couple of their albums from when they were released. I'm sure its been 20 years since I spun any of them.  Im a huge PF fan, and loved the Wall and The Final Cut, but I really have to be in the mood to listen to them now.  When the feeling strikes they are still great but its rare that I play them.  

PG led Genesis when he gets too wordy doesn't sit well anymore but its still great music.  Most everything that I thought was great has stayed that way for me, although I don't always have they same desire to hear them as often.  


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 I have gone back and forth on numerous albums and artists over the years. For example, I burned out on Bowie in the late 80s - he was everywhere and his newer material was not holding up well. That changed about ten years ago. I have a difficult time getting rid of albums because almost every time I do, I want to listen to them within a year or two.
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Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

First ones that spring to mind are Pink Floyd's The Wall & The Final Cut, I was a bit of a Floyd fanatic when they came out but those two in particular aren't to my tastes any more.

Floyd in general suffered from over play by people around me. But I still liked them, even The Wall. It was when I heard The Final Cut, which really seemed like a rehash of The Wall, that I really came to the realization of what a huge self-indulgent pity party Roger Waters was throwing for himself.

Dream Theater in general has not aged well at all for me. I was an early adopter. But around 1997, which coincided with the internet becoming an actual usable thing, I started finding more sources of progressive rock and metal, DT's music really started feeling like a place holder. Images and Words had 4 tracks I really enjoyed. Awake 2. So both of those albums really un-grew on me. 


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Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

Hi,

Weird ...

Get Ce-Real!

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