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    Posted: July 16 2021 at 01:20
^Triple LP - which usually translates to double CD.
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Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

here side 6 of the Santana live album "Lotus", consisting only of one track, an ultra-long version of "Incident at Neshabur" from their 1970 album "Abraxas":


Agreed it's one of the few triple live albums that doesn't become a feat of endurance to listen to... much better than the live tracks on Moonflower [an album which works better in my experience if you separate out the studio tracks and then listen to the live ones - only really practicable in digital format.]


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^I bought that LP from I guy I went to school with for $10. It's now has a timeshare on my turntable. Thumbs Up


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote BaldJean Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 15 2021 at 14:31
here side 6 of the Santana live album "Lotus", consisting only of one track, an ultra-long version of "Incident at Neshabur" from their 1970 album "Abraxas":




Edited by BaldJean - July 15 2021 at 14:35


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Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

You should have thrown "Lotus" by Santana into the competition too; my vote would have gone there. Since it is missing Yes get my vote.

Probably would've considered it if I'd ever heard or heard of it. Thanks for the rec though.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote iluvmarillion Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 15 2021 at 00:52
Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Originally posted by arturfd arturfd wrote:

The set list of ELP is fantastic but needs a real very good remaster.

there are at least a couple that I really like

2009 Deluxe Edition (Leadclass)
2016 Remaster (BMG)

I don't think it will get any better to be honest. I know a lot of people consider it has a 'muddy sound' because it's so much weaker than the crystal clarity of Pictures but I think that's just how it is and no amount of remastering will fix it sadly.
 
They can remaster it any way they want. It's still one of the most incredible live performances I've ever listened to. 
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Score draw. Both could do with decent remastering which might have happened I've long since gotten confused by all this. Both killer live one stop shops for two of the most awesome bands ever.
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Prefer the sound of WMFTTSTE. However the Yes album is still fine for all the sound problems.
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Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

You should have thrown "Lotus" by Santana into the competition too; my vote would have gone there.

Indeed, Lotus is tremendous!
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Originally posted by Awesoreno Awesoreno wrote:

^The decision to ditch the piano intro of Firth was a practical decision. I know Tony hated playing it on anything other than a piano, since many of the keyboards lacked weighted keys. As a keyboard player myself, I can understand this. But yeah, still, would love to have it.

As someone who took piano lessons for years, who's home piano has almost always been a fake weighted imitation upright keyboard, the feeling of playing on a real piano legitimately changes my confidence and how well I play, and also how much I want to play. If that had anything to do with the unfortunate snipping of that gorgeous piano intro, I totally understand.
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^The decision to ditch the piano intro of Firth was a practical decision. I know Tony hated playing it on anything other than a piano, since many of the keyboards lacked weighted keys. As a keyboard player myself, I can understand this. But yeah, still, would love to have it.
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Originally posted by Sacro_Porgo Sacro_Porgo wrote:

Originally posted by Dellinger Dellinger wrote:

Yessongs isn't my favourite Yes live album, but I do like it better than Welcome Back my Friends... both are great, of course. If only Genesis had released it's own classic 70's live album with the complete show (I don't know if it would have needed to be a double or a triple), it would have made a perfect match with these other two.


Well, even though Genesis never did the triple live album, I think both Genesis Live and Seconds Out are fantastic releases and easily compete with these two triples, particularly Seconds Out.


But just to know that Genesis Live is an incomplete performance, missing several of the better songs from the set-list, diminishes my apreciation of it. On the Live Box-set, which is how I got their live albums, they also have a recording of a Live at the Rainbow show, which seems to be from the same tour. Unfortunatley, that show is only complete in DVD audio, and on CD it only has the songs that were missing from the Genesis Live one (unfortunatley, because I sort of liked better the performance on The Rainbow, and the pair of CDs don't flow as the show would have). About Seconds Out, as much as I want to like that one better (since I actually like Phil Collins better as a singer, and he does improve some of the songs for me), I think it suffers from the same problem of missing songs that were actually played during the tour, and unfortunatley they didn't choose many of my favourite songs, but I don't like how Hackett was mixed a bit too low on that one... and I really wish they had chosen recordings with Bill Bruford for all the album, and going just a bit further, I wish they had gotten a flute player to tour with them... perhaps even Steve's brother might have worked fine. Oh yeah, and in both albums, I wish they had played Firth of Fifth complete with the piano intro.
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The more I listen to ELP, the less I like them. Emerson's keyboard playing just doesn't do it for me.
Yessongs is very good, though.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote VianaProghead Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 05 2021 at 09:46
Two massive triple live albums that I love that belong to two of my favourite prog bands. My favourite of all is "Playing The Fool" of Gentle Giant. Since it isn't here, I decided to choose "Yessongs" by a thin hair.
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ELP here

not crazy about some of the live versions on Yessongs
The studio versions are so much better ( at least for me ).
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote JD Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 05 2021 at 05:20
WBMFTTSTNELAGELP

A mouthful to be sure, but an unparalleled version of Tarkus, an incredible piano exploration with Piano Improvisation and a grand finale with Karn Evil 9. Plus...I just got a replacement LP version copy for my collection from Discogs last Friday.

Neither has the best sound quality so my choice is based purely on performance.


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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

I do like the extended version of Yours Is No Disgrace and Six Wives excerpts of Yessongs but nevertheless voted for ELP. KE9 , Hoedown , Toccata and Tarkus are better for me than than the studio versions. Take A Pebble does drag though. I would have removed the whole acoustic/medley section and included the Pictures encore instead.


Really?  I love the 'Pebble' section - and the 'conclusion' is wonderful.  We moaned about them not doing the conclusion in the hotel bar after High Voltage.

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I do like the extended version of Yours Is No Disgrace and Six Wives excerpts of Yessongs but nevertheless voted for ELP. KE9 , Hoedown , Toccata and Tarkus are better for me than than the studio versions. Take A Pebble does drag though. I would have removed the whole acoustic/medley section and included the Pictures encore instead.

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