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I like Roger Dean art on all their releases...I also recall he died a few years ago ,so, no new art.
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Roger Dean is alive. Yes too. It's like if they do nothing, then they're dead, if they do something... they're dead too!
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Originally posted by rik wilson rik wilson wrote:

I like Roger Dean art on all their releases...I also recall he died a few years ago ,so, no new art.

Roger Dean did not die. You must be thinking of Storm Thorgerson who was born the same year as Roger but died in 2013.
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I can already predict the 1 star reviews pouring in just like Heaven and Earth

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Yes are one of my favorite bands and I will always love them, but in their history they have never been known for their good relationships within the band members. In my opinion, people on their age and achievements in the music career must have surpassed their ego and the conflicts of the past. I don't know who manages their management, but isn't it time for a second Union, in which everyone contributed to the name of this brand to get involved?
And yes, Jon Anderson is the voice of Yes, but he is also the soul of this band.
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Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

I can already predict the 1 star reviews pouring in just like Heaven and Earth


I think with the covid lockdown they had more time to works the songs. I would be surprised that it's as bad as Heaven and Earth
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Originally posted by rik wilson rik wilson wrote:

I like Roger Dean art on all their releases...I also recall he died a few years ago ,so, no new art.

So he must have done The Quest album cover a few years before it was recorded then? Fortunately he is very much alive.
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I'm going to reserve my judgment until I've heard the album. No sense in getting your underwear twisted around your head before you've even heard the album.
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Originally posted by rdtprog rdtprog wrote:

Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

I can already predict the 1 star reviews pouring in just like Heaven and Earth


I think with the covid lockdown they had more time to works the songs. I would be surprised that it's as bad as Heaven and Earth


Yeah, I find it difficult to imagine it being as underwhelming as the last one... yet, this time Billy Sherwood is fully on board, and whenever he's been involved with Yes the results have been rather underwhelming (except for the song The More we Live, which I do love).
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Originally posted by rdtprog rdtprog wrote:

Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

I can already predict the 1 star reviews pouring in just like Heaven and Earth


I think with the covid lockdown they had more time to works the songs. I would be surprised that it's as bad as Heaven and Earth


Yeah, I find it difficult to imagine it being as underwhelming as the last one... yet, this time Billy Sherwood is fully on board, and whenever he's been involved with Yes the results have been rather underwhelming (except for the song The More we Live, which I do love).


Considering Sherwood collaborated with William Shatner doesn't exactly give him the best prog creds in the world! LOL

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The more I think about Billy Sherwood, the more I think this is a mistake.... 
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The Quest will only be the fourth new, full-length Yes studio album from the last 20 years; it's been seven years since the previous one. Yes studio albums don't exactly grow on trees these days. And now that they are finally breaking the silence, all people do is complain. I for one am happy that they still making new music, a new studio record is soo much more interesting to me than endless touring and live albums with subpar renditions of the classics.
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The more I think about Billy Sherwood, the more I think this is a mistake.... 


Chris Squire is sadly no longer with us, so making another album with him is obviously impossible. Squire wanted the band to continue, and before his death he appointed Sherwood to play the bass in his stead. I cannot think of anybody else that would have been a more obvious choice, not only because of Squire's wish, but also because he already had history with the band. Nobody else ticks those boxes.
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lol as if anderson had any chance of being there. 


well, im sure this will go in the same pile as the previous god knows how many yes cds...listen once on youtube, laugh/cry about how terrible it is, never listen to it again. 

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Originally posted by SouthSideoftheSky SouthSideoftheSky wrote:

Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

The more I think about Billy Sherwood, the more I think this is a mistake.... 


Chris Squire is sadly no longer with us, so making another album with him is obviously impossible. Squire wanted the band to continue, and before his death he appointed Sherwood to play the bass in his stead. I cannot think of anybody else that would have been a more obvious choice, not only because of Squire's wish, but also because he already had history with the band. Nobody else ticks those boxes.

I hear you.....but honoring someone's wish does not mean this is the best for music creation going forward. I could think of several bass players that could contribute more from a performance level than Sherwood.

The more I think about this the more it really should have been a solo Howe album or call it something else than Yes.....Making a case for Sherwood is sad, the effort should be to make a case for Jon Anderson and Rick Wakeman to return. And if Howe is really, really totally against Jon and Rick coming back then Yes is over.
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^I disagree. Sherwood might not be perfect but he's a good fit for the band and he's the most logical choice as a successor to Chris. I don't think say Geddy Lee would be a better replacement for Chris (not to mention not appropriate). In this case I think of Yes as sort of like a company where you want to fill the higher positions with people who are already associated with or working within the company. 


As for the  Jon and Rick comment well I guess in your opinion Yes should have called it quits after Heaven and Earth (if not sooner). 


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^I disagree. Sherwood might not be perfect but he's a good fit for the band and he's the most logical choice as a successor to Chris. I don't think say Geddy Lee would be a better replacement for Chris (not to mention not appropriate). In this case I think of Yes as sort of like a company where you want to fill the higher positions with people who are already associated with or working within the company. 


As for the  Jon and Rick comment well I guess in your opinion Yes should have called it quits after Heaven and Earth (if not sooner). 
Geddy I highly doubt would agree to assume Squire's role, sure he played with them at the RRHoF but that's not the same. I was not thinking Geddy Lee.......but I don't think Sherwood again, from a musical view, is that great, he's fine. Tony Levin would be able reproduce those monster bass licks. Logical only in that supposedly Chris wanted him in the band, they were friends.
We will see, maybe his playing will be better suited to the Yes sound today as I am sure Sherwood feels the pressure to perform like Squire.....See the issue is that Squire's sound was a huge, huge part of the Yes sound, it's what everyone talks about, it's the meat and bones of Yes. 
I don't care who you are, after 40+ years people want the classic Yes sound again, not Howe's sound which is much too trebly.

I'm hoping for a good record, but it won't be a Yes record.
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Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

^I disagree. Sherwood might not be perfect but he's a good fit for the band and he's the most logical choice as a successor to Chris. I don't think say Geddy Lee would be a better replacement for Chris (not to mention not appropriate). In this case I think of Yes as sort of like a company where you want to fill the higher positions with people who are already associated with or working within the company. 


As for the  Jon and Rick comment well I guess in your opinion Yes should have called it quits after Heaven and Earth (if not sooner). 
Geddy I highly doubt would agree to assume Squire's role, sure he played with them at the RRHoF but that's not the same. I was not thinking Geddy Lee.......but I don't think Sherwood again, from a musical view, is that great, he's fine. Tony Levin would be able reproduce those monster bass licks. Logical only in that supposedly Chris wanted him in the band, they were friends.
We will see, maybe his playing will be better suited to the Yes sound today as I am sure Sherwood feels the pressure to perform like Squire.....See the issue is that Squire's sound was a huge, huge part of the Yes sound, it's what everyone talks about, it's the meat and bones of Yes. 
I don't care who you are, after 40+ years people want the classic Yes sound again, not Howe's sound which is much too trebly.

I'm hoping for a good record, but it won't be a Yes record.

I take it you haven't seen Yes with Sherwood in the band? His sound is similar to Squire's but he's not a copycat. Apparently many fans would be upset with Billy if he deliberately tried to sound like Squire. 

Howe has been with the band on and off since 1971. Would you rather have Trevor Rabin on guitar? 

As for the name, I don't care much about that. If people don't want to call it a Yes record that's fine with me. I think of ABWH as a Yes album but many disagree with that sometimes because of semantics. Over on the rush fans website there's a poll and so far I don't think anyone on there thinks of this new one as being "the real Yes." I personally think they have a right to call themselves Yes since this band is descended from the Squire band but I seem to be in the minority these days. Of course I would prefer if Jon was in the band(and Rick too for that matter) but we all know that's probably not going to happen (especially not with Rick).


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About Sherwood, I'm more concerned about his contributions to writing and producing music, than his ability to play the bass.
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Originally posted by Dellinger Dellinger wrote:

About Sherwood, I'm more concerned about his contributions to writing and producing music, than his ability to play the bass.


Look at the credits for Heaven & Earth and it should be clear that they needed another writer in the band. Of course nobody wants the new Yes material to sound like a Billy Sherwood solo album, so let's hope that they've taken a democratic approach when composing the new songs.

ARW failed to deliver a new studio album, so bringing Anderson and Wakeman back together with Howe would probably not have helped to make new music anyway.
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