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Poll Question: who's your preferred guitarist?
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    Posted: September 22 2021 at 22:57
Which of these American jazz-rock-psych fusion players do you prefer. Strictly on their guitar playing, not on their singing or songwriting or which artist you prefer overall.

I think it's Kath for me.
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FZ, easy. 
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Zappa without any hesitasion.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote richardh Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 23 2021 at 00:48
Voted for Kath because he may need some help against one of the greats of music! (and not just prog)
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Zappa easily.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote dwill123 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 23 2021 at 04:22
As much as I like Frank's playing this one goes to Terry Kath, easily.  Both sound like they have similar playing styles.
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Where's the option for six of one or a half dozen of the other?
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Frank for me, because I think that his music sounds more intricate. I like what Zappa does better than Kath. Both of them are still excellent at their instruments though. 
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If You Leave Me Now with just two choices, then Chicago wins easily. After all,  they're a Hard Habit to Break.
 
Admittedly, I've never been a fan of Frank Zappa, but You Are What You Is. Smile

Edited by Psychedelic Paul - September 23 2021 at 07:33
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

If You Leave Me Now with just two choices, then Chicago wins easily. After all,  they're a Hard Habit to Break.
 
Admittedly, I've never been a fan of Frank Zappa, but You Are What You Is. Smile

Cetera wrote both songs you mentioned there. Poll's about Terry Kath. At least make a judgement on songs Kath wrote... 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote yogev Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 23 2021 at 07:56
Terry Kath without even thinking, One of the coolest guitar players. Zappa have very similar guitar playing, but for me he's a little less interesting (I'm talking just about the playing).
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Psychedelic Paul Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 23 2021 at 08:18
Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

If You Leave Me Now with just two choices, then Chicago wins easily. After all,  they're a Hard Habit to Break.
 
Admittedly, I've never been a fan of Frank Zappa, but You Are What You Is. Smile

Cetera wrote both songs you mentioned there. Poll's about Terry Kath. At least make a judgement on songs Kath wrote... 
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

If You Leave Me Now with just two choices, then Chicago wins easily. After all,  they're a Hard Habit to Break.
 
Admittedly, I've never been a fan of Frank Zappa, but You Are What You Is. Smile

Cetera wrote both songs you mentioned there. Poll's about Terry Kath. At least make a judgement on songs Kath wrote... 
Are you the poll police? So instead of voting, you choose to insult Paul AGAIN? Get a grip man. Your self-righteousness irritates me so please stop. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Cristi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 23 2021 at 09:27
Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

If You Leave Me Now with just two choices, then Chicago wins easily. After all,  they're a Hard Habit to Break.
 
Admittedly, I've never been a fan of Frank Zappa, but You Are What You Is. Smile

Cetera wrote both songs you mentioned there. Poll's about Terry Kath. At least make a judgement on songs Kath wrote... 
Baby, What a Big Surprise that you don't like my poll choice, but It's Hard to Say I'm Sorry. Tongue

I never said anything about your choice, your comment made no sense. 
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Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

If You Leave Me Now with just two choices, then Chicago wins easily. After all,  they're a Hard Habit to Break.
 
Admittedly, I've never been a fan of Frank Zappa, but You Are What You Is. Smile

Cetera wrote both songs you mentioned there. Poll's about Terry Kath. At least make a judgement on songs Kath wrote... 
Are you the poll police? So instead of voting, you choose to insult Paul AGAIN? Get a grip man. Your self-righteousness irritates me so please stop. 

How am I insulting Paul? Are you serious? We cannot disagree to what someone says anymore? 

Me, self-righteous? Thank you for the insult.

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[/QUOTE]Are you the poll police? So instead of voting, you choose to insult Paul AGAIN? Get a grip man. Your self-righteousness irritates me so please stop. [/QUOTE]

Well, all he said was that Kath did not write those songs, but maybe that user is talking about his guitar work in those songs. 


Edited by SuperMetro - September 23 2021 at 09:39
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As much as I respect Terry Kath (especially in the early years of Chicago, up to Chicago XI), I have to say it is hard for anyone to beat FZ as both guitarist and all around musician, at least in my book.  People use the word genius a bit too liberally, but if anyone deserved to be called a musical genius, it is Zappa.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Easy Money Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 23 2021 at 11:34
Originally posted by TCat TCat wrote:

As much as I respect Terry Kath (especially in the early years of Chicago, up to Chicago XI), I have to say it is hard for anyone to beat FZ as both guitarist and all around musician, at least in my book.  People use the word genius a bit too liberally, but if anyone deserved to be called a musical genius, it is Zappa.
Within the world of rock maybe, but not in the larger world of music in general. Can he improvise like Dolphy, Coltrane or Parker? Can he compose like Schoenberg, Stravinsky or Mozart? Frank himself would probably be the first to admit he is not in that league.

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Originally posted by Easy Money Easy Money wrote:

Originally posted by TCat TCat wrote:

As much as I respect Terry Kath (especially in the early years of Chicago, up to Chicago XI), I have to say it is hard for anyone to beat FZ as both guitarist and all around musician, at least in my book.  People use the word genius a bit too liberally, but if anyone deserved to be called a musical genius, it is Zappa.
Within the world of rock maybe, but not in the larger world of music in general. Can he improvise like Dolphy, Coltrane or Parker? Can he compose like Schoenberg, Stravinsky or Mozart?

The answer is yes to both questions and you can see it on the album "Hot Rats".

the year 1969 was very important  for rock history, like King Crimson and Miles Davis, on the album "Hot Rats" Frank Zappa generates a paradigmatic musical work, this album (together with "In A Silent Way") generated the fussion between jazz and rock and the influence it generated from this work in the musical field is immense, itīs a journey full of emotions condensed in 38 minutes.


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