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    Posted: September 11 2023 at 18:27
Ray Shulman is usually never mentioned, but he is fierce.
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Last night while listening to Genesis live for the first time in a long time it struck me how good Mike Rutherford was. He doesn't always stand out like some of the other big names but he does on that one. 
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As a VdGG fan, I have to mention Nic Potter.
 

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Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Fretless wonder Tony Franklin from The Firm and Roy Harper. A true genius.

He's awesome. He needs to issue his "Bass Noodles" as a legit CD.






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Fretless wonder Tony Franklin from The Firm and Roy Harper. A true genius.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote presdoug Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 11 2023 at 09:50
No one has mentioned-and i am not surprised-the first bassist for Italian fusion (and later total avant guarde) group Dedalus named Furio di Castri. His playing on the brilliant debut self titled album by Dedalus is just that-brilliant, but no one ever talks of him.
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Hi,

How quick we forget some folks ... I was thinking Jack Casady deserves a mention, but I'm not sure anyone here listens to JA much, or probably thinks it's just a pop band. 

My thoughts are that a lot of European musicians are less tuned (or at least WERE) to the "song/hit" mentality of things in America, and it may have helped the development of a player a lot more. The "song/hit" mentality tends to hide and not allow time for a bass player to let loose and show some intelligent and amazing work, which European music, with its longer content, was able to do. 

I think that American record companies really hurt music after the 60's by not wanting to do so many long cuts ... and might not have helped that many of these record companies owned a lot of the radio stations ... meaning "their product" was played, important or not. FM Radio, however, started out free form and it wasn't until the late 70's when the great Corporate Rape took place and these corporations bought all the FM stations, and still own them to this day ... and all you hear? Their product as "hits and classics" ... but they never owned up to someone like Chris Squire ... one guy at a station even thought that CS was a jerk, and played like one ... and this was when CTTE came out!

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Surprised that Richard Sinclair hasn't been mentioned for his work with Caravan, Hatfield & The North and Camel (often while singing lead vocals as well).
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Originally posted by Cylli Kat (0fficial) Cylli Kat (0fficial) wrote:

My apologies if this topic has been touched on prior to this...

I was just listening to Fates Warning's Perfect Symmetry and it struck me how really solid the playing of Joe DiBiase is.
So, I thought it might be nice to show some love for some possibly underappreciated bassists out there.
I'm interested in seeing your selections and who I've overlooked!

Bit late to the show (always behind the beat, like bassist should), I'd say _me_.
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Rinus Geeritsen : Golden Earring
Phil Lynott : Thin Lizzy
John Glasscock : Jethro Tull
Klaus-Peter Matziol : Eloy
Ian Patrick Djivas : PFM
Ralph Armstrong : Jean Luc Ponty Band

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Back when even the "ballad types" had great bass... This is FULL of counter-melodies.

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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Originally posted by MortSahlFan MortSahlFan wrote:

Peter Cetera

someone with an interesting career arch going from top jazz fusion bassist to 80's power pop purveyor.


yeah, the death of Terry Kath... But I do love that there are close a hundred shows with him, some with great quality.
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Originally posted by tszirmay tszirmay wrote:

Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Fabio Pignatelli of Goblin & Goblin Rebirth. The very definition of underrated. This man has recorded some of my favorite basslines.



Pignatelli is a monster , one of my all-time faves . Clap

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Pete Trewavas of Marillion is great IMO. Smile
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Beyond the great figure of Chris Square (perhaps giving him his personal stamp more than mere virtuosity made him more remembered) I have seen that they have named great bassists... King Crimson always had great singers/bassists, and Jon Camp by Renaissance stood out both live and in the studio. And we must not forget Bert Ruiter, who was in Focus 3 and Hamburguer Concerto. But I always thought of Mike Rutherford...we all love Génesis, some some albums more than others, but when listening to the instrumental passages, you recognize which part was composed by Gabriel, which Banks and which Rutherford. Since the recording of The Lamb... at Headley Grange, when they had to compose alone after Gabriel's absence, they grew a lot in their role as writers, and although we could already hear a masterful Rutherford in Fountain of Salmacis, Get'Em Out by Friday, (the bass lines there are superb) is perhaps when they were less, that he began to play more and already in A trick of the tail the bass comes out with its boots on point and we can hear all its rhythm in Squonk and Robbery , Assault & Battery. In that quiet earth also exemplifies the rapid scales of which he was capable, which also had the curious ability to provide a "meaning" to the composition.
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Originally posted by MortSahlFan MortSahlFan wrote:

Peter Cetera

someone with an interesting career arch going from top jazz fusion bassist to 80's power pop purveyor.
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^yep saw him playing with Coloseum way back about 18 years ago. Dave Greenslade was there as well as Jon, Barbara and Chris Farlowe. Great memories and a very sadly missed band.
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Tony Reeves, of Greenslade fame, though I think he's more underradared than underrated.

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The late, great Neil Pepper of Galahad.
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