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    Posted: July 04 2022 at 15:24
What did you think "progressive rock" meant, when you first saw or heard of the term?

At this point in your life you probably never listened to any prog rock music yet. Even if you did listen to it (massive hits such as Comfortably Numb), you're unlikely to notice or identify the genre. Technically you can't identify the genre because you don't know about the term "progressive rock" yet.


So, at this point of your life, what did you think "progressive rock" refer to?  What kind of music did you think it was?




For me, the answer was really really laughable.  I thought it meant "rock music with a marching, pounding rhythm". For example an acoustic guitar track would not be progressive rock, but a song with a "boom boom boom" drum sound would be the typical progressive rock. LOL Completely wrong, obviously.


There's also the possible confusion with progressive house: Progressive House is so called as it is slow initially but builds up the tempo later on.
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Nothing, really.
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Hi,

I think one of my reasons for not taking "progressive music" as seriously as I should, is NOT AN ISSUE with the music at all ... it is the an issue with fans that don't like music (in general) and can only listen to their favorites (in general), and then think that "porkessive music" is great, but "neo-pork" is much better, and should have much better representation by folks.

Essentially, I was there listening to the stuff from 1965 on, and my collection is a show of originality and creativity, and not just a favorite band ... although yeah ... I do have a heck of a lot of TD, KS, Gong and their family and so on, but all in all ... the worst part is the description of the music by non-musicians, that think they can write/create better music with a DAW than anyone else! And with no mistakes, of course!

You either listen to MUSIC or you don't ... and if you think you will be married to a style the rest of your life, in the end, you will forget the whole thing and maybe remember one band, and think about that one date you had with some blonde  yesteryear! 

I was there BEFORE anyone even thought of it all as "progressive", though some things were thought to be "art rock" and some were given a lot of credit for some nifty variations on classical music ... the one thing that "progressive music" folks do not have, btw ... !!! Fandom alone, would condemn that disease!
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I don't remember what I thought it meant when I first heard the term. Honestly, I probably read the term first in a music mag back in the 70's. I am sure it was in the context of reading about Genesis, Yes, Pink Floyd.....
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I'm not sure. I just remember it being this term that meant rock music that was a bit weird and that you didn't really hear much on the radio. In more recent years it's become a bit of a buzzword though.
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Yes, Genesis, ELP and Pink Floyd, that was pretty much it for the first few years.
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Never heard the term until the 90's, yet was listening to Zappa, Kansas, National Health, in the 70's. Then, it was labeled rock.
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I was searching for a type of music I could identify with, and a Friend told me about a band named "Jethro Tull." He said it was considered to be progressive rock because it pushed the boundaries of rock, taking influences from many different genres. It sounded interesting and I gave it a try. I was hooked. After that, I searched for bands that would do the same, and I discovered King Crimson, Yes, ELP, Genesis, Pink Floyd, etc.
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I wasn't familiar with the term "progressive rock" when I first started listening to what would be considered "progressive rock" in the fullness of time. When I did contemplate the classification initially I thought it was just a song that broke the 3 minute time barrier, and later I considered it to be a genre that contained elements of all other genres, particularly jazz and classical, and then I thought it was an interdimensional donkey walking backwards through a cloud of tapioca and then I just stopped thinking about it and enjoyed what I was listening to...or not.


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OP: bands of serious musicians making what was to them serious music with little concern for AM radio play--using jazz and classical sales and marketing norms as their standards. They were taking advantage of a small window of time in which record labels were willing to back the unexpected run in popularity of "experimental music" and their sales (DSOTM, Fragile, Houses of the Holy, Crime of the Century, etc.) And then came stadium filling concerts . . .
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These were my introduction to "progressive music."  Back then, I never once heard the term used in the US.  It was called "art rock" or "theater rock" if anything.  Prog as a term is ever worse.  Peter Banks hated that word.

September 22, 1972:  Yes with The Eagles, Arie Crown Theater, Chicago

October 10, 1972 - Wild Turkey & Jethro Tull, Stadium

April 20, 1973 - Peter Frampton & King Crimson, Kinetic Playground

August 1973 - Flash & Wishbone Ash, Auditorium Theater
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I heard it in the late 90s from a colleague. I told him the names of my favorite artists and he said, "so you like progressive only..."
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To be honest, most of my school friends were into Yes, Genesis and ELP around 1973 but I don't remember what we called it. I'm really not sure when I first heard the term "progressive rock" but I'm pretty sure I always knew what it was once I'd heard it.

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I have no recollection of what I thought 47 years ago.
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I was listening to the music before it got labelled!! 

Then again, I'm rapidly approaching 70!!
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Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

Never heard the term until the 90's, yet was listening to Zappa, Kansas, National Health, in the 70's. Then, it was labeled rock.

I knew that kind of music as Art Rock and Jazz Rock until the mid-90's, once I realized some called it prog rock


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we have this famous book from 1973; the term "progressive rock" is not used in it. the term "future rock" is used instead



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Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

I have no recollection of what I thought 47 years ago.

I have no recollection of what I thought 4.7 hours ago! Big smile
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Originally posted by lazland lazland wrote:

Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

I have no recollection of what I thought 47 years ago.

I have no recollection of what I thought 4.7 hours ago! Big smile
Yes, unfortunately, that's true too. LOL
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