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    Posted: April 18 2023 at 03:00
I found them suggested to PA as early as in 2006, but nothing came out of it.



To me Rachel's, formed in Louisville, 1991- are one of those groups with an almost flawless discography. Although occasionally experimental and dissonant, on their two first albums (Handwriting (1995)* and Music for Egon Schiele (1996)) they are almost purely an chamber music/modern classical ensemble. Both warmly reccomended, and I think many of you will love them just as much as what came after. But neither albums are the reason I'm suggesting them for PA-inclusion.

However their two next albums The Sea and the Bells (also 1996) and perhaps even more Selenography (1999), begins what makes them highly relevant for Prog Archives. There's more frequent use of percussion, guitars and bass, and that immediately make the same music (pretty much) as before more "chamber rock". They could fit in Avant/RIO as well, but when they do "rock out" a little, they got more in common with other post-rock chamber music - than Univers Zero. 

In the early 2000's they add more electronic elements to their music (not that unlike Tortoise' approach), and get slightly more experimental too. Or maybe not more experimental, but they do play around more with sounds and atmospheres...

I love the beautiful Systems / Layers (2003) - a commissioned piece for the Saratoga International Theater Institute ensemble - too. But it's got that typical soundtrack-feel (although this one's for the stage), where many of the pieces are short and underdeveloped themes - rather than fully fledged songs.

Also their two long EP's: a Rachel's / Matmos  collaboration titled Full on Night (2000) + Significant Others (2002) and Technology Is Killing Music (2006) are all progressive in one way or another, but I've only listened to all three for the first time today on Bandcamp. Where you'll find everything they ever released.


*edit: I relistened to Handwriting and it's quite far from how I remembered it. It's very much "chamber/Post-Rock. A less sophisticated, more simplistic version of what was to come. Still not bad at all. Quite enjoyable really, but I think they got better.


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None of my links seem to work (for me at least), so:

https://rachels.bandcamp.com/

+ longest part from their commisioned piece




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Lovely band, I was going to eventually suggest them myself!
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^Yes, lovely indeed.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Saperlipopette! Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 19 2023 at 22:31
Trying to get your attention here promoting this relatively well known, pioneering and highly influential Post-Rock band - that GY!BE simply must have been inspired by. -Here's another fine tune. The opening track from their third album The Sea and the Bells (1996). 


Look, even Wikipedia the free encylopedia agrees that Rachel's were Post-Rock.




  
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Remember, as per the Artist Submission Procedure thread, an original or band-approved biography is necessary for a team member to begin evaluation.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Saperlipopette! Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 19 2023 at 23:24
Originally posted by Gordy Gordy wrote:

Remember, as per the Artist Submission Procedure thread, an original or band-approved biography is necessary for a team member to begin evaluation.
I can't remember something I wasn't aware of:) But ok. Now I know.
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They haven't got any bio on their home page, so I guess there's nothing I can use. Does this mean that I have to write a bio for a band you might actually reject? If so, that seem backwards to me.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Cristi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 20 2023 at 03:06
Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

They haven't got any bio on their home page, so I guess there's nothing I can use. Does this mean that I have to write a bio for a band you might actually reject? If so, that seem backwards to me.

There are more bands that are accepted than rejected, so it's not backwards. 
Just compile some info on the band, where are they from, what do they sound like, similar artists. It does not even have to be long. 

edit: your opening post is helpful, it's all fine. Smile


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Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

They haven't got any bio on their home page, so I guess there's nothing I can use. Does this mean that I have to write a bio for a band you might actually reject? If so, that seem backwards to me.


It's the risk we take for love. Even I've had some of my suggestions rejected, and two of which were refused before they even reached the evaluation stage.

But I think Rachel's stand a strong chance for inclusion. And the best part is they have a fresh chance for evaluation: I distinctly recall they'd been suggested many years ago and were rejected by an old version of the team, but the record of that vote was erased when Progfreak was renovated recently.

Considering the team hasn't looked at this thread yet, I strongly encourage you to prepare a bio and I'll forward it directly to Keishiro and crew.

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Yep, I tried way back.  Hope they make it this time.

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Curiosity killed a cat, Schroedinger only half.
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Seems they were rejected about 12 years ago

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^Interesting, I was certain the votes from the old chart disappeared but I'm glad to be proved wrong.

I still think they deserve a second shot with fresh (progressive) ears.
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I understand why they have been rejected previously.
"Selenography" is a wonderful creation, my love. But I don't feel enough of progressive rock but neo-classical ambience via this opus. A great album nonetheless.
At any rate, the eval result by the older members cannot be reversed without any new release after that. Sorry.
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^while I'm sorry to hear Keishiro's opinion means they probably wouldn't stand another shot at inclusion, they are eligible, as they posthumously released a single track via Bandcamp in 2013, two years after their rejection: https://rachels.bandcamp.com/track/a-warm-body-2

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I know you guys are not to blame, but that sucks. Back in the days it could be quite random what albums you managed to get a hold of/listen to for evaluation as well. 

In my opinion Rachel's were an essential Post Rock band, and without them a part of the formative story is lacking. Parts of Handwriting, The Sea and the Bells (ranked 16th on Fact Magazine's "The 30 best post-rock albums of all time") is basically the birth and building blocks of what was to become the sound associated with Post Rock. Selenography is perhaps the icing on the cake. You'll hardly find a place online that doesn't use the term Post Rock about Rachel's.

-Anyway, I'm glad I didn't start writing their bio. It's extra timeconsuming as english is not my native language.
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^ So, would you please let me know which album you recommend? I've listened only to "Selenography" (and enjoyed much) so far.

And I would like to wait for Luca's opinion.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Saperlipopette! Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 30 2023 at 00:32
^If Selenography isn't Post Rock enough, I don't think an other album will convince you. But how about the one placed 16th place on Fact Magazine's 30 best post-rock albums of all time?
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Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

^If Selenography isn't Post Rock enough, I don't think an other album will convince you. But how about the one placed 16th place on Fact Magazine's 30 best post-rock albums of all time?


As this is in all likelihood the last chance Rachel's have at inclusion, it would be better for their chances if you listed specific listening links for Keishiro and team to follow. All their recorded work can be found streaming between Spotify, Bandcamp and YouTube.

Right now the band are in limbo with one vote (Unsure for Keishiro).

Edited by Gordy - May 22 2023 at 22:41
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