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Dapper~Blueberries ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: November 06 2021 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 339 |
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Eh I still think Frost* are neo prog. They got the vibes, y'know
As for me, I feel like Big Big Train should be in symphonic prog, same with Styx. Also Mr. Bungle should be in prog related, they aren't really prog, just very avant garde funk metal, like Primus
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richardh ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: February 18 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 26788 |
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Yep Frost* belong under 'Neo' as much as Porcupine Tree do (but it would be hilarious to put the latter there just to annoy S Wilson lol). Jem even did a video where he went out of his way to explain that they were deliberately avoiding all the Neo type prog stuff (he had listened to a ton of it and wasn't impressed apparently).
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Cristi ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Crossover / Prog Metal Teams Joined: July 27 2006 Location: wonderland Status: Offline Points: 41964 |
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I think they always were under neo, I could be wrong though.
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Awesoreno ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 07 2019 Location: Culver City, CA Status: Online Points: 2957 |
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^And I SWEAR they were when I first came to this site around 5 years ago or so (before getting on the forums), but they must have been moved.
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Cristi ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Crossover / Prog Metal Teams Joined: July 27 2006 Location: wonderland Status: Offline Points: 41964 |
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True, I've always thought they fit better under crossover.
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Awesoreno ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 07 2019 Location: Culver City, CA Status: Online Points: 2957 |
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Not a "Kscope" example, but Frost* is the kind of group that does not evoke the 80s- mid 90s style of Neo.
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Cristi ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Crossover / Prog Metal Teams Joined: July 27 2006 Location: wonderland Status: Offline Points: 41964 |
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some examples of bands would help prove your point a bit better.
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MikeEnRegalia ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 22 2005 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 20772 |
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^ if only there were a website that allowed everyone to vote on these things
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Prog-jester ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: June 05 2005 Location: Love Beach Status: Offline Points: 5846 |
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Atavachron ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: September 30 2006 Location: Pearland Status: Offline Points: 64771 |
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"Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." -- John F. Kennedy
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Awesoreno ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 07 2019 Location: Culver City, CA Status: Online Points: 2957 |
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Agree on Riverside. Oingo Boingo are probably a better fit for Prog Related. The first three albums and the final one are certainly progressive within that niche (not "prog" as such, but progressive). But I think that first album of theirs was really the most innovative. If they extrapolated further from there, they'd maybe work in Crossover, but considering that's just one of their albums, overall, Related might be better. That first one kills though. NAAASTYYYY HAAAABIIIIITS!
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Awesoreno ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 07 2019 Location: Culver City, CA Status: Online Points: 2957 |
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My thoughts exactly. A few contemporary bands from the mid 00s onward maybe sound enough like those foundational 80s-mid 90s neo bands to qualify, but on the whole, a lot of them belong in symph or, more likely, crossover, on this site.
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Epignosis ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: December 30 2007 Location: Raeford, NC Status: Offline Points: 32491 |
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Jethro Tull is hard rock / heavy metal. They even won some kind of award of it.
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Prog-jester ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: June 05 2005 Location: Love Beach Status: Offline Points: 5846 |
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the most annoying thing for me is seeing a bunch of contemporary artists thrown into Neo Prog. I mean come on
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siLLy puPPy ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() PSIKE, JRF/Canterbury, P Metal, Eclectic Joined: October 05 2013 Location: SFcaUsA Status: Offline Points: 14979 |
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^ but also many bands listed as proto-prog came after what was truly considered prog. Frank Zappa, The Moody Blues, The Electric Prunes, Soft Machine and others had already developed prog rock before many of the proto-prog bands listed here. I guess they are regarded as supplemental helpers for getting the prog party started but the choices of why one artist is here and another is not is a bit baffling to someone just dropping in.
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Atavachron ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: September 30 2006 Location: Pearland Status: Offline Points: 64771 |
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^ Keep in mind Proto-prog is not a subgenre or category of progressive rock, it is a historical section of artists deemed significant to the development of what became known as progressive rock. Again-- not Prog. A tip of the hat to the bold artistry of the 1960s that led to Prog. |
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altered_beast ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: December 19 2022 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 28 |
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Yeah what a good number of people are posting here are my exact sentiments. What I thought about posting has already been posted. Some bands fit under more than one category during different eras which doesn’t make categorizing any easier.
Big Big Train may have started out as Crossover Prog but have been far more Symphonic Prog for a long time now. Riverside is definitely more Heavy Prog which someone already pointed out. Some I did not see listed. Oingo Boingo-Crossover Prog? I don’t think so Tim. Proto Prog is the category I have the most difficult time with. Some of the most prominent bands that fit into this category have been listed as Crossover Prog. When I think of Proto Prog Procol Harum, Family, It’s a Beautiful Day, Moody Blues, etc come to mind. I understand bands like The Beatles, The Doors, Jefferson Airplane, etc may have influenced Prog in some ways but also influenced other genres. I don’t think of these bands being Proto Prog at all. Ok so Vanilla Fudge had 1 album Renaissance which is a very important album. Too many of the bands listed in the Proto Prog category just don’t belong on the website at all. A few of the Prog Related and Crossover Prog have some inconsistencies that leave me scratching my head but the Proto Prog category has too many issues. One man’s opinion. I welcome yours. Edited by altered_beast - August 19 2023 at 16:40 |
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siLLy puPPy ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() PSIKE, JRF/Canterbury, P Metal, Eclectic Joined: October 05 2013 Location: SFcaUsA Status: Offline Points: 14979 |
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Just because a band is edgy and has more contemplative lyrics doesn't mean they can't be a pop band. Pop means POPULAR MUSIC with catchy melodic hooks. The Doors did it better than most but essentially they were a psychedelic pop rock band that perfectly exudes the zeitgeist of the era even in the modern day. Sure they had extended jam sessions but so did many other bands of the late 60s. Innovative yes but i find the proto-prog claims a bit exaggerated. The only album that really showcased any kind of progressive tendencies was The Soft Parade. Tracks like "Strange Days" were veering towards prog but most tracks were short and punchy.
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siLLy puPPy ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() PSIKE, JRF/Canterbury, P Metal, Eclectic Joined: October 05 2013 Location: SFcaUsA Status: Offline Points: 14979 |
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^ Yummy Yummy Yummy was done by Ohio Express. That video is totally mistagged. First of all it shows The Best of the 1910 Fruitgum Co.: Simon Says album cover and yet that song isn't on it. Someone obviously mixed up the two bands most likely due to the fact they released a split album with this song (done by Ohio Express) on it. I guess we can add mistagged videos to this discussion! ![]() Edited by siLLy puPPy - August 19 2023 at 07:00 |
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Psychedelic Paul ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 16 2019 Location: Nottingham, U.K Status: Offline Points: 37096 |
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^ You're right! There's a world of difference between the Kings of Acid Rock and the Bubblegum Pop of the 1910 Fruitgum Company.
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