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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 30 2005 at 17:47

'though I do not know their music, as someone has said to me in the past... we (= ProgArchives) would be relatively stupid not to include bands that are generally regarded as prog rock/metal bands.

Maybe the problem is that no-one has taken the time to write a biography for them? Or are they totally rejected?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 02 2006 at 19:21
I have listened to two of their albums the last couple of days and I sure vote in favour of their addition to the site!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 02 2006 at 19:58
they are definitely prog. "A favor house atlantic" and "blood red summer" do them no justice (although i do enjoy the catchiness) moatilata was right in that the story and mood of the songs go along together.

even if they arent listed as prog on this site, theyre definitely a great band that is unfortunately being bundled up with pop bands like falloutboy and howthorne hieghts while they should be over there with the mars volta. and system of a down should stop touring with mars volta.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 03 2006 at 06:50
There are a few MP3 samples here for those interested
http://music.download.com/coheedandcambria/3600-8709_32-1001 30220.html



MikeEnRegalia :- You might want to add the above to your MP3 sample database site.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 03 2006 at 10:07
from the above site, download welcome home or the crowing

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 03 2006 at 19:42

As a short note... under what subgenre of the progarchives database would you like to see them included? Please look at the genre descriptions when deciding.

I agree that they should be included though no matter what!  

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 03 2006 at 19:55
Art Rock, hands down.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 04 2006 at 01:04
^agreed.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 04 2006 at 23:23

i was more of the opinion that thery should be under "prog-metal", though it definatly doesnt fit them to a Tee. At least from the songs i heard, (and very much enjoyed by the way). Maybe "prog-related" would be better. actually i believe that would be a very good sub genre for them. And i have to add... a friend of mine purchased "In Keeping Secrets of Silent Earth: 3" and i absolutly love a few of their songs. i think prog-archives should defiatly add them to the site. now i've said my piece, thanks...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 05 2006 at 09:58
^ they have to much in common with prog to be dismissed to the 'catch-all' genre Prog-Related. I'd say the  description of Art Rock fits them nice!  Maybe a small twist of Experimental?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 05 2006 at 13:20
Art Rock fits them better
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 05 2006 at 13:29

Originally posted by king16 king16 wrote:

^ they have to much in common with prog to be dismissed to the 'catch-all' genre Prog-Related. I'd say the  description of Art Rock fits them nice!  Maybe a small twist of Experimental?

there's nothing experimental about them... theyre not doing anything new.  art rock fits i suppose.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 05 2006 at 13:30
Originally posted by GoldenSpiral GoldenSpiral wrote:

Originally posted by king16 king16 wrote:

^ they have to much in common with prog to be dismissed to the 'catch-all' genre Prog-Related. I'd say the  description of Art Rock fits them nice!  Maybe a small twist of Experimental?

there's nothing experimental about them... theyre not doing anything new.  art rock fits i suppose.

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 05 2006 at 13:49
They're not reinventing prog ... but they do incorporate an EMO vibe into the music, which makes them somewhat unique as a band with 1 1/2 feet in the progressive territory (so to speak).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 05 2006 at 13:57

Ive just listened to Meshuggah's "Catch 33" and Coheed's "Secrets" back-to-back.I'm not suggesting they are similar but I couldnt detect any more Prog-merit in Meshuggah compared to C&C to be honest.

They are, in my opinion, prog-related and therefore whilst not a Prog Rock band they do merit inclusion....

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 05 2006 at 15:21
what other prog bands released 5 concept connecting concept albums with graphic novels of the story?

i think coheed and cambria should be in art rock, fosho

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 05 2006 at 15:33
Originally posted by Tony R Tony R wrote:

Ive just listened to Meshuggah's "Catch 33" and Coheed's "Secrets" back-to-back.I'm not suggesting they are similar but I couldnt detect any more Prog-merit in Meshuggah compared to C&C to be honest.

They are, in my opinion, prog-related and therefore whilst not a Prog Rock band they do merit inclusion....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coheed_and_Cambria

"Coheed and Cambria is an American Progressive Rock Band" ... I'm not suggesting that the wikipedia is always an reliable source of information (it is not), but still. The main reason for me to call them a prog band is that they're covered by prog magazines.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 05 2006 at 16:15
Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

Originally posted by Tony R Tony R wrote:

Ive just listened to Meshuggah's "Catch 33" and Coheed's "Secrets" back-to-back.I'm not suggesting they are similar but I couldnt detect any more Prog-merit in Meshuggah compared to C&C to be honest.

They are, in my opinion, prog-related and therefore whilst not a Prog Rock band they do merit inclusion....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coheed_and_Cambria

"Coheed and Cambria is an American Progressive Rock Band" ... I'm not suggesting that the wikipedia is always an reliable source of information (it is not), but still. The main reason for me to call them a prog band is that they're covered by prog magazines.

Wikipedia isnt a reliable source for Prog Rock designation,surely?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 05 2006 at 16:24
^ I thought I had said so ... I'm sorry, but I couldn't find a link for the various articles on Coheed & Cambria in print magazines.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 05 2006 at 16:54

Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

^ I thought I had said so ... I'm sorry, but I couldn't find a link for the various articles on Coheed & Cambria in print magazines.

Caught out skimming posts again!

Sorry Mike.

 

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