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    Posted: August 23 2024 at 06:30
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A couple months ago I set out to make some Prog Rock and I asked people in this forum for help on how to create album art. 8 months later I finally managed to finish the album. If I were to give a description of the album I would say it fits firmly into the Symphonic Prog category, since there are a lot of strings and orchestral elements on the album.


This is the first track of the album, fully titled: Emperor Suite (i. Civilization Begins ii. 3000 years iii. Kingdoms iv. The Dark Ages v. Revival vi. Dreams Of Today), it should also be available on streaming.

Please let me know what you think as I always aim to grow as an artist and feedback would be very appreciated!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote octopus-4 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 25 2024 at 03:16
At a very first listen I hear influences mainly by Genesis, but some sounds remind to Bo Hansson and some passages are in an ELP mood. 
Having influences is normal and it's fine. Mixing them to create something personal and original is what an artist has to do.
I don't like your voice, honestly, sometimes untuned, but the instrumental is good. 
There's also too much reverb on it. 

My suggestion: hire a vocalist and replace your voice. The music is good, don't jeopardize it with poor vocals.



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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote GUD77 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 25 2024 at 07:48
Thanks for hearing it, and thanks for the feedback!

I also think the vocals were the weakest part of the album as I dont really have any experience with singing. The main idea was I wanted to steer away from becoming a pure instrumental act as I dont think it makes the music quite as memorable or outstanding. I respect the honesty and it is duly noted!

Also why do i get this weird command bar added when i reply? I cant seem to remove it
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Edited by GUD77 - August 25 2024 at 07:49
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote lazland Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 25 2024 at 08:29
Originally posted by GUD77 GUD77 wrote:

Thanks for hearing it, and thanks for the feedback!

I also think the vocals were the weakest part of the album as I dont really have any experience with singing. The main idea was I wanted to steer away from becoming a pure instrumental act as I dont think it makes the music quite as memorable or outstanding. I respect the honesty and it is duly noted!

Also why do i get this weird command bar added when i reply? I cant seem to remove it
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The reason for the weird command bar I believe is that the forum software was invented at about the same time as the printing press.

Having said that, I might be wrong as my technological capability isn't much better!LOL


Edited by lazland - August 25 2024 at 08:29
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Hrychu Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 25 2024 at 12:36
Amazing work. This epic has all the elements I wish more modern prog musicians would use. Plus, you used those elements with insane amounts of care and it tells a lot about your music production history knowledge. The vocals are good IMHO. You have a good voice tone and diction. The vocal style compliments that pastoral 70's vibe. There are spots that are out of key but I think some doubletracking with just a bit of Melodyne correction and would make the vocals really shine. I can tell you tried to mask those little flubs with reverb. But the excessive reverb didn't do the intended job imho and only made the vocals more muddy in the mix.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote GUD77 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 25 2024 at 16:34
Thanks for hearing and i'm glad you enjoyed!

I think you're right on me being a bit lenient with the reverb knob, which did hurt the overall song. Some of this was due in part because there was a lot of white noise in my backround at the time of recording. you can actually hear this in some of the softer segments of the track. So some extra reverb would drown out those white noise segments but at the cost of quality. However if I just recorded somewhere else and I was a better singer I probably wouldnt have these issues.

The other 3 songs on the album also features vocals and the next track "Bird Island" I think is better sung than this track.



Dont know how to fix the command bar so I guess its here to stay

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Logan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 25 2024 at 17:15
I made a topic on the issue of code, how to resolve it, and how to use BB code without the forum editor: https://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=132330

You need to disable the the WYSIWYG post editor. When logged-in click on Member Control Panel (near top left of from screen), then click on Forum Preferences, then click the "No" option for Enable the WYSIWYG post editor, then update your profile.
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Thanks it did the trick!
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