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Poll Question: So.. are you dropping acid or having red eyes, or are you clean?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 11 2005 at 02:54

Prog=

Drugs= not

So, I’m sprinkly clean Although alcohol is yummy

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 11 2005 at 06:33
I still smoke up around twice a month and I shower everyday so I am clean!!!!!!!!!!
let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter
keep our sand-castle virtues
content to be a doer
as well as a thinker,
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 11 2005 at 07:52

Originally posted by The Wizard The Wizard wrote:

I totally clean and plan to be for my whole life.

Me too.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 12 2005 at 14:45
I somoke pot, and it goes well with prog. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 12 2005 at 15:53
I'd rather spend my money on music instead of drugs.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 12 2005 at 16:52

No.

Now shut up and skin up!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 13 2005 at 19:49

I used to trip QUITE A LOT, when I mean quite a lot, I mean almost every day.

 

But Sprinkly clean now

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 13 2005 at 20:14
Originally posted by Legoman Legoman wrote:

Woah... this poll can't be right.  I always figured that proggers were hardcore stoners.  Wow.  I mean... I don't do drugs but I always figured I was special or something.  I don't feel so special anymore... 


No..... proggers are like the opposite... >.>

How could you expect to play insanely complicated music hopped up on dope?  I don't know ANYONE who likes prog and does drugs.  Sorry to say... <.<
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 13 2005 at 20:17
Well, 0-4 time a week. I don't concider myself a droogie, just a normal 16 year old boy living in Québec...
Vive le Québec libre!...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 14 2005 at 15:25
^haha thats pretty damn right... gotta love quebec
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 14 2005 at 15:31

Originally posted by Define Insanity Define Insanity wrote:

Originally posted by Legoman Legoman wrote:

Woah... this poll can't be right.  I always figured that proggers were hardcore stoners.  Wow.  I mean... I don't do drugs but I always figured I was special or something.  I don't feel so special anymore... 


No..... proggers are like the opposite... >.>

How could you expect to play insanely complicated music hopped up on dope?  I don't know ANYONE who likes prog and does drugs.  Sorry to say... <.<

 

Thats a pretty dumb statement, dope gives you alot of imagination, songs come out nicely and easily... and MANNNYYYY prog bands in the 60's-70's and even now took drugs...

So. dont say stupid things like that

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 14 2005 at 22:28
Originally posted by stebo32 stebo32 wrote:

Originally posted by Define Insanity Define Insanity wrote:

Originally posted by Legoman Legoman wrote:

Woah... this poll can't be right.  I always figured that proggers were hardcore stoners.  Wow.  I mean... I don't do drugs but I always figured I was special or something.  I don't feel so special anymore... 


No..... proggers are like the opposite... >.>

How could you expect to play insanely complicated music hopped up on dope?  I don't know ANYONE who likes prog and does drugs.  Sorry to say... <.<

 

Thats a pretty dumb statement, dope gives you alot of imagination, songs come out nicely and easily... and MANNNYYYY prog bands in the 60's-70's and even now took drugs...

So. dont say stupid things like that

It might do all that for you,but it really messes up your reflexes and reaction time.

When I got high as a teenager I used to tape myself practicing drums and would play high and think I was doing great,then listen to it later on when I was straight and realized how much my playing was off.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2005 at 07:46
Originally posted by TheProgtologist TheProgtologist wrote:

Originally posted by stebo32 stebo32 wrote:

Originally posted by Define Insanity Define Insanity wrote:

Originally posted by Legoman Legoman wrote:

Woah... this poll can't be right.  I always figured that proggers were hardcore stoners.  Wow.  I mean... I don't do drugs but I always figured I was special or something.  I don't feel so special anymore... 


No..... proggers are like the opposite... >.>

How could you expect to play insanely complicated music hopped up on dope?  I don't know ANYONE who likes prog and does drugs.  Sorry to say... <.<

 

Thats a pretty dumb statement, dope gives you alot of imagination, songs come out nicely and easily... and MANNNYYYY prog bands in the 60's-70's and even now took drugs...

So. dont say stupid things like that

It might do all that for you,but it really messes up your reflexes and reaction time.

When I got high as a teenager I used to tape myself practicing drums and would play high and think I was doing great,then listen to it later on when I was straight and realized how much my playing was off.

My dad used to be in a jazz band with a tromboneist that would play high and he, apparently, thought that he was at his creative peak and producing fantastic stuff when he was high when he was actually rather crap.

Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2005 at 14:40

Write while high, play while sober.  That'sthe secret!!!

I'm clean, but I'm 13, so it doesn't mean THAT much. Still, drugs are not part of my life-plan. That is, taking over the world.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2005 at 15:25

yea exactly. find your inspirations while high, and then create while sober...

In profesionnal arts, and music, you'll be surprised knowing how much of the people do drugs.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2005 at 15:31
Originally posted by stebo32 stebo32 wrote:

yea exactly. find your inspirations while high, and then create while sober...

In profesionnal arts, and music, you'll be surprised knowing how much of the people do drugs.

But if you are truly creative and imaginative you shouldn't need to get stoned to find inspiration.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2005 at 15:44

^ I completely agree... But ... it is clear that even a person like that taking drugs will have a even wider imagination... It is proved. on weed, you can see your imaginations so clearly, close your eyes and see imagery... same with music, same with drawing, it brings you to this creative section of your brain.

I dont wanna sound pro-drugs, there are obviously bad sides to drugs. Just dont abuse and smoke when going to school or anything... but some one who consumes when he has time and nothing on his mind. well, actually I am convinced that he will widen his intelligence, by having new experiences.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2005 at 15:52
I think Daniel Gidenlow makes a great point on drugs in this interview (I'd paste it... but these forums don't let me =X)

http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2511&a mp;PN=1
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2005 at 15:57

You can cut and paste it:

PA:  What are your views on drugs?

DG:  If you have a small mind they seem to help you get access to the parts you have shut down. It’s like a shortcut to a visionary state that you can reach anyway if you just let go of your mental limitations put there after years and years in this world.  If your mind is already large they will just help you shut down other parts of it.  Let’s say they are a shortcut to a place to which you will never find a proper way if you use them.  Usually, when a mediocre artist starts doing drugs, they will in fact produce one or two interesting albums, more open-minded than their previous work, then they will just turn sour and never do anything as good again.  At least, that’s my impression.  I don’t go near them.  I have struggled through dense vegetation to find that place anyway, and that journey has done me good.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2005 at 16:06
Actually. yea, we can all access these altered mind states naturally... by meditation techniques, or transe states, etc... But, please is there a non-stoner here who does that?  Theres those tibetan people... yea...    But other than that... A PORTION of peopple who go in drugs are already super smart and wanna find out MORE about the universe... and what better way then ingesting a plant that can make you access that information... and what makes you say stoners dont meditate or anything once in a while to obtaint it naturally... Its more about the desire of someone to obtain such altered mind state. I completely disagree with "people with small minds use them." Its probably the wisest people who realize. hek drugs arent bad... what is the meaning of "bad" anyways on this planet. we dont even KNOW the damn meaning of life. why give ourselves limits...
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