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    Posted: November 28 2005 at 08:34
Originally posted by Badabec Badabec wrote:

I don't like System of a down.

Besides they are not progressive, so they shouldn't be mentioned at this site.

Is this not the "Non-Prog Music" part of the site?
You're acting like it's insulting to have them talked about on this site.

Sometimes coming on this site just p*sses me off so much - some of you people are so f**cking pretentious "Oh they don't fit in with what I consider Progressive Rock, therefore they are inferior and should burn in damnation". Get ahold of yourselves please! I joined this site months ago and then left because of your pointless banter on bands like Coheed and Cambria not being "Progressive enough" to be on the site (or just because YOU don't like them). I have given into my love for music and have come back to this site despite the pretentiousness of many members, but could people PLEASE stop being such w**kers and be more respectfull to bands they don't like.

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Why the f**k do you people care whether or not they're political or not?!?! Politics are something VERY important in that they shape our world - and the world is in a very bad shape. Politics are something that should be discussed more, the more aware people are - the more likely things can be changed for the better of the world.
Even Pink Floyd are political - take the album Animlas for instance, or even their album Dark Side of the Moon is political. No doubt there are probobly heaps of political prog bands out there, Pink Floyd is the only band I can think of at the moment. I don't see how politics could be a problem to music at all.
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Points: 3839 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 27 2005 at 15:42
Originally posted by d.o.k d.o.k wrote:


- i've never seen them live, but already hear it and it's sometimes awful. Where they got time in the studio to join two parts with different tempos, in live conditions they seem to have difficulties.


My experience was quite the opposite.  I actually didn't like SOAD until I saw them live.  their live show is very rapid-fire and at times difficult to follow in its complexity.  one second they are rocking and thrashing, then before you can blink, Serj does a keyboard solo which turns into a guitar-keyboard duet, which turns into a blistering guitar solo,  with psychadelic visuals throughout the show. 
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Points: 113 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 27 2005 at 15:22
I clearly hear progressive influences in their music, and they do recognize it. Tempo changing, various genres played, strange vocals (she's like heroin)... really a great band.
Nonetheless, 2 anoying points :
- the bassist seems to be useless. Daron's guitar with an octaver pedal would give the same result.
- i've never seen them live, but already hear it and it's sometimes awful. Where they got time in the studio to join two parts with different tempos, in live conditions they seem to have difficulties.
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Points: 1381 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 27 2005 at 12:48

Great Great Ablum!!

 

I was very plaesed. i have listrened to it so many times already and i love it.

Vicinity of Obsenity is deffinatlly my favourite one. But all are good.


IMO, though, Mezmerize is better. There is more coherency to the album and it has a nicer flow. However the music on Hypnotize is better.
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Originally posted by GoldenSpiral GoldenSpiral wrote:


Any fan of Fantomas needs to check out the track "Vicinity of Obscenity".

It's interesting that you say that, I'm a huge Fantomas fan and that is one of my favorite songs off that album.
 
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Points: 12600 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 23 2005 at 12:51

Their 1st album is the only one I can bear- then they started to get all commercial- and Pollitical- f that!
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Points: 27802 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 23 2005 at 12:26
Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

Originally posted by Certif1ed Certif1ed wrote:

"Toxicity" is the best thing SOAD have done to date. If "Hypnotize" is anything like "Mesmerize", it'll be more of the same - and it's nowhere near Zappa standards!

SAOD are great fun, and "Toxicity" especially showed a lot of proggy promise - but they haven't lived up to it, IMO - the roots of the music are street level garage band just making the music they like, with no pretensions to high art whatsoever.

Not even prog related, IMO.

 



This is one of the rare occasions where we agree.


Same here......all the planets must be lined up or something

But honestly...I can't say it any better than Cert already did.

Not even Prog Related.


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Originally posted by Certif1ed Certif1ed wrote:

"Toxicity" is the best thing SOAD have done to date. If "Hypnotize" is anything like "Mesmerize", it'll be more of the same - and it's nowhere near Zappa standards!

SAOD are great fun, and "Toxicity" especially showed a lot of proggy promise - but they haven't lived up to it, IMO - the roots of the music are street level garage band just making the music they like, with no pretensions to high art whatsoever.

Not even prog related, IMO.

 



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Points: 2383 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 23 2005 at 11:41
I got the Dualdisc version of the album today, haven't seen the DVD yet, but I've listened to the album 3 times already.

f**king brilliant, EASILY better than Mezmerize, and pretty much better than all other albums this year put together.
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Points: 3839 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 23 2005 at 11:23
OK, so I got the album.... and I must say I'm impressed.  I cant decide which half (mesmerize or hypnotize) I like better at this point.  They do a lot of strong melodies (and amazing harmonies) and mix it all in with their signature craziness. 

Any fan of Fantomas needs to check out the track "Vicinity of Obscenity".
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I like that they are experimenting more with sounds and vocal harmonies.  Mesmerize was a really intriguing album and I like it a lot, and I thought it really blew Toxicity out of the water.  However, it still doesn't hold a candle to their self titled debut. 

Now I cant decide if I want to follow your link or wait until tuesday to hear it!
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Points: 53 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 20 2005 at 22:49

Originally posted by Logos Logos wrote:

^ Sorry but what the hell are you talking about? SoaD's bass player never does vocals. Oh please.. think before you write!

 

Woops, I mean Daron their guitarist.  He is the one who sings a lot (and sucks).
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Points: 27802 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 20 2005 at 10:28

Originally posted by Bobby Bobby wrote:

I used to really enjoy SOAD a lot.  Mostly because they were my cousin's favorite band and he turned them on to me.  But now, I don't care for them that much anymore, and I think it's because their bass player.  Hypnotize could be a great album in my mind, but I think their bass player is too involved with the vocals.  His voice is nowhere near the level of Serg's. 

It's their GUITARIST,Daron Malakian,who sings all the backgrounds and harmonies(and some lead,sometimes)vocals.He also writes pretty much all the music.


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Points: 1381 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 20 2005 at 09:34

I'm waiting for the officail release, but my frined said that it was nothing like MEZMERIZE which i completly love! i listend to that album 30 times in one week when it came out...

 

i hoep they can do it again
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"Toxicity" is the best thing SOAD have done to date. If "Hypnotize" is anything like "Mesmerize", it'll be more of the same - and it's nowhere near Zappa standards!

SAOD are great fun, and "Toxicity" especially showed a lot of proggy promise - but they haven't lived up to it, IMO - the roots of the music are street level garage band just making the music they like, with no pretensions to high art whatsoever.

Not even prog related, IMO.

 
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^ Sorry but what the hell are you talking about? SoaD's bass player never does vocals. Oh please.. think before you write!
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I used to really enjoy SOAD a lot.  Mostly because they were my cousin's favorite band and he turned them on to me.  But now, I don't care for them that much anymore, and I think it's because their bass player.  Hypnotize could be a great album in my mind, but I think their bass player is too involved with the vocals.  His voice is nowhere near the level of Serg's. 
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Points: 4097 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 19 2005 at 11:49
Originally posted by Xymphony Xymphony wrote:

They make songs with 1 or 2 melodies. Just clever songs and highly professional production and marketing.

That sounds like a description of rather a lot of bands who sound absolutely nothing like SOAD
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They make songs with 1 or 2 melodies. Just clever songs and highly professional production and marketing.
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