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    Posted: April 23 2006 at 05:05
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What has gotten into you lot lately?
Two members have been contacted over their behaviour in this thread and others have come close to warnings.
I am closing this.
It may be time to get strict again.Stern Smile


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 23 2006 at 04:08
Originally posted by Tenth Chaffinch Tenth Chaffinch wrote:

As a matter of fact I find that The Mars Volta is really just Emo music that has been souped up with annoying electronics, obnoxiously fast riffs that have no real theoretical basis, and an attempt at complex composition ending in cacophonous, out of place, and awkward movements from one part of the song to the next.  
  
 
Yep.
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 23 2006 at 02:54
Seems that the drugstores have run out of Lithium lately in some countries.
 
I believe it's time to close this thread
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 23 2006 at 02:38
Stupid arguments. Just ignore the radical opposing view that you have. I love the Mars Volta's new and innovative (breath of fresh air) progressive music. I know that their lyrics are not nonsensicle (their albums are actually very symbolic.) "Tenth..." can think what he wants and that's fine. It doesn't change me from completely disagreeing.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 23 2006 at 01:30
I don't think he's ignorant. He just had an opinion radically different to most of those in this thread, and just so happened to voice it in a somewhat confrontational manner. Though it pissed me off when he started telling people how little they know about music and such.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 23 2006 at 01:04
so.....confused.... need...SLEEP....


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 23 2006 at 01:03
I have to disagree, I am far from ignorant. You should read deeper into your observations Rael. It would do you much good. I am out to anger no one. I am simply a diehard proghead, thats all.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 23 2006 at 01:00
* hugs Tenth Chaffinch* wait a minute...you just said we played into his hands *not arguing that one* but called him ignorant in the same sentence.....do YOU want to fight?!?!? *takes out switchblade*


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 23 2006 at 00:57
It is funny how everyone played right into his hands.  His only goal was to piss everyone off, and he won.  I don't care what he thinks, and no one else should.  I like Mars Volta, and I don't care if it is prog, emo, or just crappy music in general, because I like it. 
 
Don't get angry at him, I don't.  I pity him, because I pity ignorance, and people who enjoy the degredation of what gives other person enjoyment.  We all know these people.  When you have something you like, or a bit of bad news, they always have something negative to say, because they hate the idea of someone else being happy when they are miserable.  They think, if I am miserable, everyone else has to be.  This guy is just a miserable human being.  I think he needs a hug.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 23 2006 at 00:53
Oh I agree, Sinfields lyrics were always thematic, I'm reffering more to the Wetton/Bruford era, when in fact live recordings have different sometimes absolutely ludicrous lyrics.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 23 2006 at 00:53
Alright. No more talking on this matter.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 23 2006 at 00:52
Originally posted by Tenth Chaffinch Tenth Chaffinch wrote:

Their lyrics arent emo. Their lyrics are just nonsensical space fillers added so that the music can have vocals. It's pretty common in music, even King Crimson did it. And believe me, I take a lot of time before I develop an opinion of a groups music. I have listened to a lot of their material and can probably name 10 of their songs that I've heard off hand. It simply strikes me as mediocre, I find it progressive for Emo music but not for Rock in any way.

 
 
 


I don't know much of the lyrics of KC from the 80's onward, but the Sinfield era and even the Wetton have very siginificant and meaningful lyrics. Sure they don't sound coherent at first listen but you have to know the background to understand them.

And as for TMV. Frances the mute is a concept album and I'm pretty sure that they aren't "nonsensical space fillers". You can check on one of the threads that the user named "Lindsay Lohan" made about the interpretation of some lyrics and the story.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 23 2006 at 00:43
goddamn it it never ends does it.....oh well.....guess I'll have to do this again.....*readies flamethrower*


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 23 2006 at 00:43

Yes, forget this thread.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 23 2006 at 00:42
Damn i made the same mistake. This is getting hackneyed.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 23 2006 at 00:42
I think it's time to close this thread Stern Smile.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 23 2006 at 00:42

Ghandi, you're a fool. I guarantee I am more intelligent than you. I tried to end this argument maturely but of course some predictable drone of society wanders in and stirs emotions up again.

I'm a troll.
Look mommy, talking monkey (pointing at Ghandi 2)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 23 2006 at 00:41
Originally posted by Meddler Meddler wrote:

Originally posted by Ghandi 2 Ghandi 2 wrote:

Originally posted by Tenth Chaffinch Tenth Chaffinch wrote:

thats right all of you gang up on me. nancyboys travel in pack I've heard
Your intelligence overwhelms me. Your exquisite use of a varied and deep vocabulary is incredibly, not to mention your incredible grasp on grammar and punctuation. Truly, my good sir, thou art Shakespeare reincarnated.
 
Or maybe you're just another troll. Does making other people angry make you feel important?

Ghandi 2, as you can see, we're trying to END this. Confused
Ah, I took too long typing that, so I missed the reconciliation posts. Ah well. My apologies. Gah, I can't think straight. I should have gone to bed...2 hours ago.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 23 2006 at 00:40
people! stop picking on this poor person! He's dropped it, no need to pummel him any more! Paaaasiiiive reeeesiiiistaaaance!


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 23 2006 at 00:38
Originally posted by Tenth Chaffinch Tenth Chaffinch wrote:

Originally posted by heyitsthatguy heyitsthatguy wrote:

....sorry....not thinking straight....again see "tired" comment....but my point is that I'm not insulting you or trying to be defensive of a group that I like just because you attacked them, I'll admit that TMV definitely are easy to attack. Just don't stoop to stupid immature comparisons like i hypocritically did.
 
you admitted it. i respect you. no sarcasm. lets just end this on this note:
 
Tenth Chaffinch does not enjoy the music or artistic expressions of The Mars Volta
 
End of argument, end of hostility.


Thank you very much, this is finally over. Now lets all go back to listening to our respective prog bands....btw animals is my favorite Pink floyd album too Smile


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