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Melomaniac 
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Posted: October 13 2006 at 12:40 |
 inpraiseoffolly wrote:
He was not a genius - but he did found Pink Floyd, and that earns him a lot of credit. Pioneer, yes, genius, no. |
Same thoughts here !
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Pnoom!
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He was not a genius - but he did found Pink Floyd, and that earns him a lot of credit. Pioneer, yes, genius, no.
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Kleynan
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Posted: August 24 2006 at 16:43 |
IMO he's all of the above except genius. With all due respect: I'm not a big Barret fan, although I admit, he's had a huge influence on music. Without him, there wouldn't be a Pink Floyd, as we know it today.
Edited by Kleynan - August 24 2006 at 16:44
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You've just had a heavy session of electroshock therapy, and you're more relaxed than you've been in weeks.
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Negru Voda
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Posted: August 24 2006 at 15:53 |
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A decent musician from the 60's who is best know as the founder of Pink Floyd, who in the end was an unfortunate casualty of LSD use. There. Three options into one.
I don't understant how people see him as a genius; maybe if I liked his work more I'd see things in a different light. Until then, no.
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MattiR
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Posted: August 24 2006 at 10:43 |
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Pioneering founding member of Pink Floyd
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Markus
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Posted: July 23 2006 at 16:21 |
Pioneering founding member of Pink Floyd...but he was a madman too.  ...
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Philéas
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Posted: July 17 2006 at 15:20 |
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To me, he will always be an LSD casualty, although I do acknowledge him as a pioneering and influential musician aswell.
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TheProgtologist
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Posted: July 17 2006 at 13:30 |
Syzygy wrote:
Pioneering yes, genius no. For someone with such a small output he's cast a remarkably long shadow over rock music of the last 40 years, far more so than other cult 'outsiders' like Nick Drake who also left behind a small but influential body of work. |
Exactly
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Mandrakeroot
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Posted: July 17 2006 at 12:58 |
Phil wrote:
The pioneering founding member of PF.
"Genius" is over-used and I hope I'm not being disrespectful by saying it doesn't (or didn't) apply to Sid. |
It's all true!!!
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Sean Trane
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Posted: July 17 2006 at 04:21 |
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all of the above except overated and lousy guitarist
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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter
keep our sand-castle virtues
content to be a doer
as well as a thinker,
prefer lifting our pen
rather than un-sheath our sword
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YYZed
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Posted: July 16 2006 at 21:40 |
The Wizard wrote:
Losendos wrote:
his output is way too small to be labelled much other than an LSD casualty.Whatever potential he showed was snuffed out. But he beat Joplin ,Hendrix and Morrison to be the original rock and roll burn out. |
He wasn't a burnout. He suffered from mental illness and really did not bring that condition upon himself. |
Although his daily use of psychedelics and discomfort with his new found fame were definitely a catalyst in the onset of his breakdown. Syd was definitely pioneering, but I'm not so sure he was a genius.
Edited by YYZed - July 16 2006 at 21:41
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The Wizard
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Posted: July 16 2006 at 20:49 |
Losendos wrote:
his output is way too small to be labelled much other than an LSD casualty.Whatever potential he showed was snuffed out. But he beat Joplin ,Hendrix and Morrison to be the original rock and roll burn out. |
He wasn't a burnout. He suffered from mental illness and really did not bring that condition upon himself.
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Losendos
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Posted: July 16 2006 at 20:42 |
his output is way too small to be labelled much other than an LSD casualty.Whatever potential he showed was snuffed out. But he beat Joplin ,Hendrix and Morrison to be the original rock and roll burn out.
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How wonderful to be so profound
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Masque
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Posted: July 16 2006 at 10:05 |
Syd never did much for me musicaly unfortunatly ... however living a life with a mental condition isn`t easy and when people use terms like madman it only makes it harder ! please refrain from using such words .. Syd never hurt anybody he wasn`t mad he was ... special 
Edited by Masque - July 16 2006 at 10:09
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Posted: July 16 2006 at 08:57 |
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Lets settle this once and for all  |
haha do we really think this settles anything ..... Einstein was a genius ..... was Syd in that class? ..... I voted 2nd option as founder of PF
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Guzzman
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Posted: July 16 2006 at 06:48 |
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I say you forgot "British" in the list.
If one could vote for that, things might be clear without too much explanation.
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"We've got to get in to get out"
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S Lang
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Posted: July 16 2006 at 06:18 |
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I think I've heard all of Sid's tunes and albums. He was talented, no doubt, but Pink Floyd would never have made to the heights with him. 'Astronomy Domide", "Interstellar Overdrive" were great and somewhat inspirational, but he was no genius.
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GPFR
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Posted: July 14 2006 at 19:12 |
Guillermo wrote:
Pioneering founding member of Pink Floyd.
I don`t know if he really was an "LSD casualty". What was before? He took LSD because he had some mental problems before doing it, or because he took LSD he had mental problems after doing it? it is hard to say, I think. It is known that Lennon, as he said, "took thousand of LSD trips", and he carried on working in his music. Maybe Barrett was prone to mental problems, and LSD worsened them. |
Well if it hurt him and worsenned his condition to the point were he couldn't keep producing music, then I think he qualifies as a casualty.
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Guillermo
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Posted: July 13 2006 at 23:48 |
Pioneering founding member of Pink Floyd.
I don`t know if he really was an "LSD casualty". What was before? He took LSD because he had some mental problems before doing it, or because he took LSD he had mental problems after doing it? it is hard to say, I think. It is known that Lennon, as he said, "took thousand of LSD trips", and he carried on working in his music. Maybe Barrett was prone to mental problems, and LSD worsened them.
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kebjourman
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Posted: July 13 2006 at 22:56 |
erik neuteboom wrote:
Syd Barrett was a very gifted, charming and witty person who wrote great pop-psychedelic songs and played very adventurous guitar. Unfortunately he suffered from schizophrenia (which is not the same as a split-personality), this blended with heavy drug-abuse (cascades of LSD tablets every day) damaged his mental state and personality very much with the result that he lived the rest of his life as a kind of recluse to protect his confused and troubled mind against the world around him. He also got diabetes, the severe complications of this disease caused his death, what a very tragic end of a person that could have been the next Ray Davies or John Lennon in the late Sixties ... ..
Nonetheless, I will remind him as a very creative and adventurous mind, I love his songs Arnold Layne, Scarecrow, Interstellar Overdrive and Candy And A Currant Bun, goose bumps, what an unique atmosphere  ! |
AMEN
nicely put
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