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E-Dub
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Posted: September 02 2006 at 09:43 |
<<I have to agree that the Beatiful video is one of the most homoerotic things I have ever seen.>> Buhfuh??!! It is? E
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Gravity Eyelids
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Posted: September 02 2006 at 10:38 |
Kinda of weird video, not that terible though. Good song, but they made better.
Edited by Gravity Eyelids - September 03 2006 at 07:46
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Into this wild Abyss the fiend Stood on the brink of Hell and looked a while, Pondering his Voyage.
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VanderGraafKommandöh
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Posted: September 02 2006 at 11:01 |
I remember a few months back starting ti view this video, but I didn't enjoy the music, so I stopped it. I'm so glad I didn't get to the shirt removal part!
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Peter
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Posted: September 02 2006 at 11:10 |
unforgivable74 wrote:
Marillion are my favourite band. I am not gay but when I first saw pictures of Mr. 'H', I thought maybe I should question that. But after being a fan for a while, I began to think that his head was on a long a journey up his own arse so I decided to remain hetrosexual. He is a damn handsome bloke but, my God, does he know it! |
Whew! A narrow escape!
Beware of looking at attractive people of your gender!
In particular, avoid TV, movies, and leaving the house -- alternately, just pluck your own eyes out....
Whoops! Now you're gay!
There -- now you're straight again!
Now you're just confused!
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Edited by Peter Rideout - September 02 2006 at 11:17
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"And, has thou slain the Jabberwock? Come to my arms, my beamish boy! O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!' He chortled in his joy.
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Gravity Eyelids
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Posted: September 02 2006 at 11:17 |
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Into this wild Abyss the fiend Stood on the brink of Hell and looked a while, Pondering his Voyage.
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Drew
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Posted: September 02 2006 at 11:22 |
I just wasted 4:24 of my life
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Peter
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Posted: September 02 2006 at 12:28 |
Drew wrote:
I just wasted 4:24 of my life |
And I thought I typed slowly!
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"And, has thou slain the Jabberwock? Come to my arms, my beamish boy! O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!' He chortled in his joy.
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Penumbra
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Posted: September 02 2006 at 12:49 |
Become a convert and cross over from Symphonic? E-Dub, you have much to learn of my loyalties. I love all music, but some just bores me sometimes! I'll listen to "Beautiful" again when I have an anxiety attack; then you can ask me how I feel.
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The Holy Trinity of Symphonic Progressive Rock
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bhikkhu
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Posted: September 02 2006 at 13:00 |
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Drew
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Posted: September 02 2006 at 13:02 |
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: September 02 2006 at 14:06 |
E-Dub wrote:
Actually, "Beautiful" is one of my favorite tracks from the amazing Afraid Of Sunlight. Listen to the message because it's really quite inspiring and probably one from which we all could benefit (as we're on a thread about stereotypes and generalizations).
The problem is not the video, for God's sake, Peter Gabriel used to run through a stage in a flower outfit, Freddie Queen made a video for "I want to break Free" (Roger Taylor even looked as a cute girl ), Jon Anderson has some weird movements and nobody says a word because the music is great, in this case Marillion seems to be following the path of their mentors Genesis.
Freddie was gay, that's a fact, everyone of us knows that fact and we don't have the slightest problem with his music or videos, as a fact I was the first one to correct an ex-member who said Queen was crap because the guy was gay (Of course he used the word qr) and I doidn't hesitate to call him an idiot with stupid prejudices and an homophobic.
But to deny Beautiful is a suspicious video is being blind, he tried to be controversial, most people here is just mentioning that.
If you like the message, but still can't stomach "Beautiful", then go listen to "A Few Words For The Dead". Essentially says the same thing, but a bit more progressive.
Nah, didn't liked it either.
Honestly, I can't believe a list made up of adults (I'm assuming we're [at least] in the majority) are even discussing this.
Why? Adults are just kids that growed up, we are just having a bit of fan without being offensive.
Iván
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E-Dub
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Posted: September 02 2006 at 14:41 |
Ivan, you make good points. Some I can't quite understand, but some are valid. The last statement, for example, is a valid one; however, the difference is now (as adults) we know what the proper parameters are. I wasn't offended (although the title of this thread raised an eyebrow at first). Just wondering where it was all going. Hogarth has been happily married to the same woman for quite some time. Maybe he tried to push the envelope...to get us all talking. Maybe he succeeded. It's all good, Ivan. E
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E-Dub
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Posted: September 02 2006 at 14:45 |
<< Become a convert and cross over from Symphonic? E-Dub, you have much to learn of my loyalties. I love all music, but some just bores me sometimes! I'll listen to "Beautiful" again when I have an anxiety attack; then you can ask me how I feel. >> I may be a conservative straight white guy, but I think I'm pretty good about exploring other forms of prog. I've liked symphonic and art rock a lot longer than neo prog...it just happens to be the primary focus because my favorite band happens to be a neo prog band. Look through my tower and you'll see classic Yes, King Crimson, Genesis, etc. Then you'll see Dream Theater and Ayreon in another section. It's all good. E
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WaywardSon
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Posted: September 02 2006 at 14:47 |
After watching Led Zeppelin (especially Plant) "The Song Remains The Same" one could ask if Zep have a large gay fanbase!
Edited by WaywardSon - September 02 2006 at 14:47
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Peter
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Posted: September 02 2006 at 15:19 |
(^ Large gay fan vase )
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"And, has thou slain the Jabberwock? Come to my arms, my beamish boy! O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!' He chortled in his joy.
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sleeper
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Posted: September 02 2006 at 15:20 |
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Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005
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Peter
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Posted: September 02 2006 at 15:23 |
( ^ Large Gay Face Fan )
Edited by Peter Rideout - September 02 2006 at 15:25
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"And, has thou slain the Jabberwock? Come to my arms, my beamish boy! O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!' He chortled in his joy.
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VanderGraafKommandöh
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Posted: September 02 2006 at 15:58 |
Peter, over here, Vase rhymes with Mars, not face.
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Peter
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Posted: September 02 2006 at 16:56 |
Geck0 wrote:
Peter, over here, Vase rhymes with Mars, not face. |
I was going for the similar spelling.
Here, for the record, it can rhyme with "maze" or "pause."
This one is likely full of Greek oil :
So tell me, what's a Grecian earn, anyway?
(Every Roman knows!)
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"And, has thou slain the Jabberwock? Come to my arms, my beamish boy! O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!' He chortled in his joy.
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: September 02 2006 at 16:59 |
E-Dub wrote:
I may be a conservative straight white guy,
My case is the same but agravated because I was raised by a hardcore homophobic. machist, racist and anti-communist father, the first time a group of partners from the university came to study to my house (One was black, the other was gay - pretty obvious BTW- and we also had acommunist with a Che Guevara T-shirt a metal heads and 3 beautiful girls -he used to believe beautiful women should stay at home or participate in beauty contests-) my father almost died, he wondered if we were going to study or make an orgy LOL (Don't blame him, it's the way he was raised).
But neither my sister or me are hompohobic, we're both straight but managed to get rid of this medieval way of thinking (Except of the anti-communist part , but blame Shinnig Path for that, any action causes a reaction).
but I think I'm pretty good about exploring other forms of prog.
Me too, my first love iis obviously Symphonic, but love Folk, Fusion, Art Rock and even some Neo like Fish Marillion, Pendragon, etc.
I've liked symphonic and art rock a lot longer than neo prog...it just happens to be the primary focus because my favorite band happens to be a neo prog band. Look through my tower and you'll see classic Yes, King Crimson, Genesis, etc. Then you'll see Dream Theater and Ayreon in another section. It's all good.
Well Prog Metal has quite good bands but sadly Fream Threater represents all i don't like of the sub-genre and seems to exuist almost a perfect identity between Prog Metal and Dream Theater.
Iván
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