Paradox Hotel vs A place in the Queue

babydoctor wrote: Now that Stolt is gone...I must say that I'm starting to like the Tangent more than before.

hehe. interesting how you put that babydoctor. i think the tangent sound better without stolt ... and yeah i'll go with 'A Place In The Queue'. i like this album a lot, but i'm getting the 'Instant Delivery' DVD/CD so i can be more convinced of paradox hotel (although the lyrics are somewhat to annoying like wall street voodoo). when you hear karmakanic's wheel of life and the solos that Krister is pulling out there you know that they are only gonna end up on a tangent record somewhere/sometime.

so don't fear!!! just get the new karmakanic album when it decides it wants to be finished.

Definitely A Place in the Queue.  A Place is a lot more solid overall and has two amazing epics (In Earnest and self-titled) and the short songs are all very good as well.  Paradox Hotel is still great, but there are some songs that don't do anything to me.  Right now,  A Place in the Queue is my favorite 06 album, but I got The Dark Third yesterday and that might change.

TheProgtologist wrote: herbie53 wrote: Roine Stolt is a great absence in the 'Place in the Queue' album. His substitute isn't a bad guitar player, but Tillison dominates the things here, and I must confess that I don't like keyboards so much... Tillison dominates because it is Tillison's band.The first Tangent album was actually meant to be Andy's first solo album but it morphed into something else,went off on a tangent,pun intended.None of the members but Tillison are meant to be permanent.I just had to say that because alot of people are under the misconception that they were a Roine Stolt project,and they aren't. A Place in the Queue for me,I think it is a brilliant album,especially after the disappointing The World That We Drive Through(which isn't terrible,it's just not in the same league as The Tangent's brilliant debut).

Agreed on most points.  The project is Tillison's.  Stolt wasn't a creative influence, but his participation in the project along with Jackson's really helped market the project.  I quite like a lot of the vocals Stolt did on the first two albums, but I wasn't hurt one bit after his departure.

I quite liked The World That We Drive Through, I actually prefer it to the The Music That Died Alone.  There are some great songs in "The Winning Game", "Skipping the Distance", and "A Gap In the Night". 

^Your first sentence does not make sense grammatically speaking.  Stolt is on the second album.  If you don't like his singing on the first two, that I might understand, but I would imagine that those two albums would not be as good without his writing contributions and guitar playing.

From what I have heard of PO90 is great.  I downloaded their free album off the website and heard some others on internet radio.  Who knows if that project will ever get resurrected but it will probably be quite some time if it does.  But without Stolt, isn't The Tangent now about the same thing anyway?

babydoctor wrote: Now that Stolt is gone...I must say that I'm starting to like the Tangent more than before.

So you are saying that Stolt detracted from the first two albums?

^Spot-on Progtologist.  Tillison has always been the brains and driving force but thankfully, he seems to have very little ego and welcomed input from Stolt and others on the first album.  Who knows how it might have turned out without said input but as you and I know, it is indeed "brilliant."  The whole thing turned into something other than originally planned, which is hardly unheard of in the fluid universe that is music.  And I am sure the resultant outcome is something Tillison and his prog audience are extremely happy with.

I would bet he still has a good relationship with Stolt, but part of him is probably pleased that his new band could come up with another winner and that the spotlight would be more on him, be it good or bad, than having the FK crutch that many people felt was used through the first two albums.

I voted Tangent, but love Hotel as well.

Paradox hotel is a little bit better than a place in the queue....

I think both suffer most from the loss of Zoltan,personally. With the Tangent, I don't mind this guitarist, I just feel he could have been featured more inplace of some of the keyboard solos maybe.I'm going with 'A Place...'

Damnit, I can't decide...   You've stumped me, Mister Bothy!

E-Dub wrote: Paradox Hotel by a long shot. Now that Roine is gone, The Tangent are about as exciting as an olive oil enema. E

I differ, I think now Tillison can really grow within the band, as he already did with APITQ