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    Posted: January 28 2007 at 15:26

Ok this is my last list of drummers ,now my brain is dry,..please choice and give your interesant opinions,thanks



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 28 2007 at 15:31
Guy Evans of VdGG. Severely underrated.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 28 2007 at 15:32
Ginger Baker is in no way underrated. Best drummer on the planet though.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 28 2007 at 15:42
My favourite drummer from the list is Peter Erskine, but that's collateral. I think that from those listed, Nick Mason receives the least credit from the overall appreciation of the band compared to the others I know from the list.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 28 2007 at 15:45
I voted for Jon Hiseman from the list - top drawer, very jazzy player.  I suppose he's not so widely rated because he's usually playing in the kind of jazz-rock context which doesn't tend to fill stadiums.
 
I think Bernard Purdie is rather underrated as well, probably because he's mostly a session player - check out his playing on Steely Dan's The Royal Scam, superb.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 28 2007 at 15:48
I don't think Hiseman, Baker or Erskine are underrated; they are widely regarded as excellent drummers. my vote goes to Stewart Copeland.
if he were on the list, my vote would go to Mani Neumeier of Guru Guru though. he should be listed in every drum poll that is worth its salt. and he is so underrated he doesn't even make it onto this list. or perhaps he is just too little known, in which case I highly recommend to listen to the 2 tracks of Guru Guru in the database, especially "God's Endless Love for Men"


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 28 2007 at 16:29
Originally posted by Mascodagama Mascodagama wrote:

I voted for Jon Hiseman from the list - top drawer, very jazzy player.  I suppose he's not so widely rated because he's usually playing in the kind of jazz-rock context which doesn't tend to fill stadiums.
 
I think Bernard Purdie is rather underrated as well, probably because he's mostly a session player - check out his playing on Steely Dan's The Royal Scam, superb.
I'll second that Bernard Purdie.  I saw him on tour with Cat Stevens mid 70s, he was excellent.  Check him out on Cat Stevens' "Foreigner" album.  I'd also like to submit a few others as under-rated drummers.   Alphonse Mouzon (Larry Coryell's Eleventh House).  Chester Thompson (Weather Report, Genesis) and IMO the most overlooked drummer Ernest "Boom" Carter, I referred to him on this board as the best drummer you've never heard of.  He played reguarly in the 70s with David Sancious and Tone.  His most noticeable recording was as the drummer on Bruce Springsteen's "Born To Run".  His best studio recording was on David Sancious and Tone -  "True Stories".
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 28 2007 at 18:49
Stewart Copeland- he's the only talented member of the Police and the only reason I listen to them. I like his work with Les in Oysterhead.
 
Others:
Tommy Aldridge- unsung metal drummer who influenced drum kings like Dave Lombardo
Nick Mason- least praised member of the band, he lays down some inventive performances
 
Ginger Baker isn't really underrated. He appears on most lists of top drummers.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 28 2007 at 23:32
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 28 2007 at 23:35
from the list, Jon Hiseman

Virgil Donati is under-recognized if not underrated.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 31 2007 at 18:27
You rarely if ever hear anything mentioned about the Mahavishnu Orchestra's second drummer (replacement for Billy Cobham), Narada Michael Walden.  Currently an extremely successful producer this guy was a monster on drums.  I remember going to see the reformed Mahavishnu Orchestra in Central Park right after the release of "Apocalypse".  The anticipation was whether or not this guy repalcing Billy Cobham was any good or not.  Within the first minute you knew he was.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 31 2007 at 18:28
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 31 2007 at 19:54
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 31 2007 at 19:59
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 01 2007 at 04:14
Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

I don't think Hiseman, Baker or Erskine are underrated; they are widely regarded as excellent drummers. my vote goes to Stewart Copeland.
if he were on the list, my vote would go to Mani Neumeier of Guru Guru though. he should be listed in every drum poll that is worth its salt. and he is so underrated he doesn't even make it onto this list. or perhaps he is just too little known, in which case I highly recommend to listen to the 2 tracks of Guru Guru in the database, especially "God's Endless Love for Men"
 
You're right that all three are not under-rated but they are generally less-cited than others
 
Fully agree with Neumeier, though. He's awesome
 
 
From the list above I went for Ainsley Dunbar. His work with Zappa (he's the unsung hero in the Grand Wazoo album) and the early Journey is outstanding . Never understood how he never got bigger.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 02 2007 at 23:21
Originally posted by PROGMAN PROGMAN wrote:

Klaus Dinger, Chris Slade and Csaba Beke


I second Dinger.  He was very consistant, and I love his fills.

But my favorite underrated drummer is Can's Jaki Liebezeit.  The "Human Metronome," he played some of the most fluid grooves ever heard.  Also, on Hallelewah he plays my personal favorite drum solo ever.  F***ing incredible!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 03 2007 at 05:49
I would go for (and recommend) two Swedish favourites, who are much underrated:
Anders Johansson, who I believe has taken heavy rock drumming to a quite an art and some surprising sublety, and then looked to broaden his palette by including world influences, check out Red Shift (Heptagon Records) for this, also check out Jonas Hellborg Group's e - heavy Hammond organ lead jazz rock (predating Niacin by half a decade), and The Shining Path's No Other World for metal with precision, the latter two albums are difficult to find but are on DEM Records.

Morgan Agren, best known for his work with the Matts Morgan Band (Thanks For Flying With Us and Live are strongly recommended, Cuneiform and UAE Records respectively), but quite a long history of solo work, e.g.a rather good DVD issued in last 18 months.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 03 2007 at 06:07
Originally posted by rileydog22 rileydog22 wrote:

Originally posted by PROGMAN PROGMAN wrote:

Klaus Dinger, Chris Slade and Csaba Beke


I second Dinger.  He was very consistant, and I love his fills.

But my favorite underrated drummer is Can's Jaki Liebezeit.  The "Human Metronome," he played some of the most fluid grooves ever heard.  Also, on Hallelewah he plays my personal favorite drum solo ever.  F***ing incredible!

I saw Liebezeit live with the Phantom Band once (they gave a concert at my school) and was very disappointed. Yes, the man was a living metronome, but that was all. A metronome might have taken his place. Totally uninspired performance, in my opinion. Strangely the few people I talked with about him praised his performance. But then it was the time when drum machines were very en vogue, and it was considered to be cool to play like one. Dead


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 03 2007 at 06:24
I bet Liebezeit would have been a fantastic experience in the 70's with Can, though. I think he's hypnotic sound is unique and so much more than a metronome. But he's really not that underrated.

I think Embryo's Christian Burchard is.

and Giulio Capiozzo from Area

Billy Hart (Herbie Hancock, Pharoah Sanders..) never gets mentioned among the greatest jazzdrummers, does he?



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